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    Each week, if not every day, brings in its train another illustration of the fact that those who scrutinize us cannot abide reciprocal scrutiny. Witness the apparent demise of the "Rate My Cop" website.


    Carly Kullman, a one-time police cadet, explains that Rate My Cop was to be a national database of police officers and agencies. Users would be able "to browse through their own local police department and see how their local police force stacks up" when compared to other agencies across the country. The site would deal only in publicly available information about agencies and individual officers. Each officer would be rated on the basis of three criteria: authority, fairness, and satisfaction.


    Rebecca Costell, a creator of Rate My Cop, said that the objective was to combat an emerging stereotype of police as abusive, violence-prone revenue hogs: "Our website's purpose is to break that stereotype that people have that cops are all bad by having officers become responsible for their actions."


    Of course, stereotypes don't materialize spontaneously, and the image Costell describes has been abundantly validated over the past couple of years with the emergence of YouTube and other forms of cyber-samizdat. The near-ubiquity of cell phones and other digital recording devices has made it possible to record episodes of police misconduct, and video sharing sites have made those recordings available to anybody with a high-speed internet connection.


    Rate My Cop's very practical and commendable contribution to the necessary -- and overdue -- public conversation about police misconduct is to provide an incentive for internal police reform: The site would help burnish the reputations of genuinely professional, service-oriented departments and officers, while goading others to clean up their act.


    Does anybody else remember "Officer Friendly" (left, and below)? "Rate My Cop" would enhance the reputation of good police officers.




    Additionally, as Kullman points out in reviewing the site, "People who are potentially moving to another city might use Rate My Cop to check out the police force in the area that they are moving to, allowing them to see how the police perform...."


    In these ways, Rate My Cop would have applied the logic of the free market to the practice of law enforcement. The problem here, of course, is that our current approach to law enforcement is entirely statist, which means that it's designed in a manner intended to insulate it from market discipline.


    In unadorned terms, the last thing police want is to be accountable to the communities they're supposed to be serving. Accordingly, police unions immediately began to shriek and keen that Rate My Cop posed a threat to ...


    ... wait for it ...


    ... wait for it ...


    ... that's right: "Officer safety." [Safety is a tyrant's tool; no one can be against safety. DH]


    I've said it before: "officer safety," not protection of the law-abiding public, is the highest priority of every police department, and every effort to reform police conduct or hold police publicly accountable is condemned as a threat to the same by the professional whiners who represent police unions.


    In this case, there was a legitimate threat, since Rate My Cop did imperil the job safety of bad, indifferent, or corrupt police officers. Of course, it also offered a way to reward and promote the conscientious, heroic officers we are constantly assured constitute the vast majority of police.


    Apparently, it was that positive stereotype -- which is still the preponderant image in most media and entertainment depictions of police -- that would have suffered, or perished, because of Rate My Cop. So the "law enforcement community," as an appendage of the Leviathan State, did what such people always do when threatened with accountability: They used the threat of legislation and criminal sanctions to compel Rate My Cop's creators to shut down the site.


    "Behold, and tremble before, the Mighty Scolding Finger of Authoritarian Righteousness!" Utah State Senator Chris Buttars, hero to corrupt police officers everywhere.



    Interestingly, the first recorded objections to Rate My Cop come from a familiar source: Utah state senator Chris Buttars, sponsor of SB260, a measure intended to suppress reports of police misconduct. As Salt Lake City CBS affiliate KUTV reported on February 12: "A main concern of SB260 supporters is with the buisness `rate-my-cop,' which is a national company that has made requests for misconduct reports on every officer in every agency in the area. Buttars believes that `rate-my-cop' will put the information into a data base and sell it to defense attorneys."


    Buttars, like other petit-authoritarian Republicans with a basically Cardassian* concept of how the justice system should operate, finds it unconscionable that defense attorneys might have the means to impeach the testimony of a police officer. Those of us who understand that the purpose of a trial should be to force the State to prove the guilt of a defendant have no problem, of course.


    I recently mentioned Senator Buttars and his proposal in connection with the case of Kevin Buttars, an abusive Deputy Sheriff from Montpelier, Idaho who may be related to him. As noted previously, Buttars was recently convicted of battery and sexual assault against a prisoner, and given a sentence of surpassing triviality for that crime.


    Before the March 2007 incident that led to Buttars' conviction, he had worked as a law enforcement officer in Bonneville County, where -- according to some -- he had a reputation for being short-tempered, foul-mouthed, and unprofessional. It's easy to see why Buttars might have disliked a system like Rate My Cop. It's possible that a system of that sort might have weeded him out before he beat, choked, and simulated sodomy on a suspect who dared return the favor when Buttars started treating him to profane verbal abuse.



    The Teton County Sheriff's Department offers another illustration of the potential value of a Rate My Cop-type system. The exquisitely lovely and thinly populated region of southeastern Idaho was thrust into the national spotlight with news of the drug-related arrest of actress Dawn Wells, better known to men of a certain vintage as Ginger's better-looking friend on Gilligan's Island.

    Wells was stopped by a Deputy Sheriff last October while she was returning from a birthday party. Her car was reportedly bobbing and weaving on the highway. A search of the vehicle turned up a small quantity of marijuana and related paraphernalia. Wells apparently didn't test positive for intoxicants, and several witnesses testified that the weed belonged to someone other than the 69-year-old film producer. She was spared a drug charge, escaping with a small fine, probation, and a short jail sentence. (I doubt a common Idaho resident in the same circumstances would be blessed with a similarly favorable outcome).


    As I read about this case, my second reaction -- my first being, "Wait a second -- Mary Ann lives here in Idaho?" -- was a moment of disgusted recognition when I read the name of the officer involved in her arrest: Deputy Sheriff Joseph Gutierrez.


    About a month after he collared Gilligan's girlfriend, Deputy Gutierrez committed a felony by illegally attempting to murder a Black Labrador Retriever mix named "Bobby," a dog owned by Leo Barboza of a small town called Felt. Leo and his family got Bobby as a puppy about five years ago, and everybody in their neighborhood seemed to find the dog friendly and agreeable -- except for one mentally handicapped lady, who filed several police reports claiming that the dog had attacked her. This troubled woman, significantly, was notorious for causing problems with dogs, rather than being the victim of canine misconduct.


    On November 12, Deputy Gutierrez materialized on the front porch of the Barboza family's home and announced that he was there to kill their dog. Alarmed, Leo demanded to know what proof there was that Bobby had done any harm to anyone; Gutierrez arrogantly proclaimed that he didn't need any proof.


    Yes, he may have had a steenkin' badge, but Deputy Gutierrez didn't need no steenkin' evidence.


    Cowed by the presence of a bellicose bully in a State-issued costume, Leo obediently brought out Bobby and tied him up in the front yard. His wife, father-in-law, and three-year-old son all watched in a state of growing agitation as Gutierrez retrieved a rifle from his vehicle. Nearby, a bus deposited a group of curious schoolchildren -- who stood paralyzed in the street, their innocent eyes growing wide with incredulous alarm as they took in the spectacle coalescing in front of them.


    In what could be described as a "life-imitates-Napoleon Dynamite" moment -- but worse -- Gutierrez shot Bobby in the head three times as the screams of terrified children rent the air.

    (What follows is not a re-enactment; article continues after the jump)




    At about 3:30 that afternoon, Gutierrez wrote in his incident report: "Shots fired. Dog is dead." Barboza's traumatized family had to endure another shock as Leo's aging father-in-law suffered a severe anxiety attack that left him hospitalized.

    Survivor of lawless police violence: Leo Barboza shows Bobby's gunshot wounds (left and below).



    When the family returned, they found, to their astonishment, that Bobby was alive -- albeit severely wounded and bleeding profusely. They called the local media to report the atrocity committed by Gutierrez, and shortly thereafter filed a lawsuit.


    Although Gutierrez was suspended, Sheriff Kim Cooke insisted -- let's say it together, now -- that he had acted properly according to department policy. Cooke maintained that Gutierrez was authorized to kill the dog under Section 8.11.4 of County Ordinances, which permit "vicious" dogs to be destroyed if they are "found at large" and "cannot be safely taken up and impounded." He also simpered that his department had received numerous death threats because of the publicity Gutierrez's crime had received.


    Oh, I see: It's a matter of officer safety again.


    Only in this case, Gutierrez's criminal actions had created a threat to officer safety -- assuming that the comments reported by Cooke were actually made, and should be taken seriously.


    Bobby was not at large; he was on Barboza's property. He was not a "vicious" animal, since he submitted to being tied up and shot without much difficulty (Gutierrez, by his own account, was on the Barboza's property a total of ten minutes.) County ordinances and Idaho law specify that a dog must be found to have committed two confirmed attacks before being regarded as vicious, and that its owner has ten days to challenge that designation before a judge.


    In other words: A dog, being a form of personal property, cannot be destroyed without due process of law.


    And -- note this well, Gutierrez -- "due process" doesn't automatically occur whenever some punk-ass tax-feeder in a State-issued costume makes a demand of innocent people.


    Gutierrez, significantly, is a recent graduate of the Idaho Peace Officers Standards and Training academy (I-POST). He is also a former Marine, albeit one who apparently doesn't live up to the expectation that every Marine should be an expert marksman. However, he does exemplify the credo of last December's I-POST graduating class: Don't suffer from Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder -- go out and cause some. Of this, Barboza's family, which includes a traumatized senior citizen and a nearly murdered dog, can attest.

    Sheriff Cooke couldn't resist a gratuitous dig at the Barbozas, claiming that the family's delay in getting medical help for Bobby demonstrated that they had been irresponsible in their maintenance of the dog.


    Talk about a cluster-bomb of hypocrisy. If the arrogant, ignorant berserker Cooke had hired as a deputy had followed the rules, none of this would have happened. If he had killed the dog outright, it wouldn't have needed the medical care it didn't receive while the Barbozas were dealing with the more urgent matter of the father-in-law's anxiety attack.


    Sheriff Cooke is not only a hypocrite and a cretin, he's also something of a criminal kingpin, since at least half of his department (three out of six deputies) have recently been under criminal investigation.


    The Idaho Attorney General's office has considered criminal charges against Gutierrez (on previous performance, Gutierrez has little to fear from the AG's office). Two other deputies, Nate and Mat Froehlich, are also the subjects of official inquiries -- Nate for insurance fraud, and Matt for abuse of police power.









    Reid Rogers, president of the Teton Valley Chamber of Commerce, probably wasn't exaggerating when he told the press that “There’s a growing discontent about the level of performance generally" with the Sheriff's Department. All three of the scandal-tainted deputies are in their twenties, fresh of the fascisti farm. If they're cashiered in Teton County, chances are they'll show up on some other force elsewhere in the country.


    This situation is altogether too typical of what's happening in law enforcement nation-wide, and it illustrates both the desperate need for a Rate My Cop-style resource, and some of the reasons why the "law enforcement community" will do whatever it takes to keep us from getting one.



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    That's a pretty good article, I was shocked at the Napoleon Dynamite style shooting!

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    Very good article.

    I have seen the pics and the story about the dog being shot before. All I can say is that even though the law calls them personal property, if someone is coming to shoot one of my dogs he better bring a lot of backup. (If one of them turned vicious, I would take him/her to the vet myself and have it taken care of as humanely as possible).
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    Well I signed up and rated my first officers!

    LEO229, you're TOAST!

    j/k - Actually I wrote up a good report for the officers from FCPD (Cory Hoggatt and Stewart Struthers) that responded to our picnic in Burke Lake Park in June 07.

    "Ofc Hoggatt [Struthers]responded to me and friends from OpenCarry.org in park legally Open Carrying firearms. He and partner were very professional, knew the law and that we were completely legal and was very friendly throughout. Details at: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum54/3190.html"

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    I signed up, and I think everyone else should too. To bad they don't have Manassas city online yet. There are a few officers there I would like to comment on. I did put a positive message down for the Sgt who helped me out on last months Starbucks deal.

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    I've been waiting for mainsail to do officer olsen.

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    So no one is suspicious of the wound photographs? Hijacking the thread.

    Believe nothing you read or hear without verifying it yourself unless it fits your pre-existing world view.

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    What do you suggest we be suspicious of in that regard? I am confident that the images themselves are real as they are stills from a news video I have watched.
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    Nothin'. They looked too stereotypical, but I'm prolly just too suspicious.

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    Well, wouldn't that wound pattern have become stereotypical because it is typical?

    *shrug* All I can tell you is that some time back when this first happened, I watched the posted news video on the news station web site. If there is any monkeying around with the images, it was either done with the news station's complicity or with crazily good special effects makeup that could fool the news crew close up. I'm inclined to accept this one at face value.
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    So Doug, did you post it to inform us, or to "test us"? Testing uswould be rather "Hankish", don't you think?



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    BobCav wrote:
    Testing uswould be rather "Hankish", don't you think?
    That's hilarious!

    P.S. I did lurk here a long time before posting...

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    BobCav wrote:
    So Doug, did you post it to inform us, or to "test us"? Testing uswould be rather "Hankish", don't you think?
    I don't see images (including smilies) unless I specifically request them. The post was to 'inform'.

    I was checking what was included when I saw the too clean wounds.

    Hank was just another Anony Mouse boogey-man that took his ball and went home rather than learning to play with the big guys.

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    Aw, Doug, just messing with you. I'm not a huge smiley user anyway. I didn't look that closely at the pics or other facts. Let us know if you find out more.



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    That story makes me sick to my stomach. It actually makes me think about the consequences that would result if an officer tried that with my dog. Most likely I would wind up in jail following aiming my Mossberg at said scumbag.

    I hope officer Gutierrez gets what is coming to him.

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    http://cbs13.com/local/rate.a.cop.2.673410.html

    Rate-My-Cop: New Website Has Police Furious CBS13 Correspondent R.E. Graswich Has The Scoop On How Police Are Reacting To Sites Like RateMyCop SAN FRANCISCO (CBS) ― Police agencies from coast to coast are furious with a new website on the internet. RateMyCop.com has the names of thousands of officers, and many believe it is putting them in danger.

    Officer Hector Basurto, the vice president of the Latino Police Officers Association, recently learned about the site. "I'd like to see it gone," he said.

    "Having a website like this out there puts a lot of law enforcement in danger," he said. "It exposes us out there."

    Kevin Martin, the vice president of the San Francisco Police Officers Association, agrees. "Will they be able to access our home addresses, home phone numbers, marital status, whether or not we have children? That's always a big concern for us," he said.

    Creators of the site say no personal information will be on the site. They gathered officers' names, which are public information, from more than 450 police agencies nationwide. Some listings also have badge numbers along with the officer's names.

    Rebecca Costell says, in a statement, that the site helps people rate more than 130,000 officers by rating them on authority, fairness and satisfaction.

    She adds, "Our website's purpose is to break the stereotype that people have that cops are all bad by having officers become responsible for their actions."

    The site is so new that many Bay Area police agencies are not aware of it. San Francisco police say they have no connection with the site and would not take any of its comments seriously.

    Police associations that represent more than 100,000 police and sheriffs in California are now seeking legislation to see if they can eliminate the site altogether. They say that officers who are rated face unfair maligning without any opportunity to defend themselves.

    The CPCA will work with other law enforcement associations to pursue legislation to stop the website. Constitutional attorney and former San Francisco Police Commissioner Peter Keane said eliminating the site is difficult.

    "Any kind of publication is protected as long as it's not publishing privileged information," he said.

    The First Amendment would be the site's protection.

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    http://keepandbeararms.com/news/nl/
    read_comments.asp?nl=52874880000800&tmpD=3%2F1 7%2F2008 wrote:
    "It exposes us out there."
    How ironic !! After Louisiana state police issued a "safety warning bulletin" with my name, driver's license photo and misleading information concerning me, I basically said the same thing to the cops.

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    BobCav wrote:
    Well I signed up and rated my first officers!

    LEO229, you're TOAST!

    j/k - Actually I wrote up a good report for the officers from FCPD (Cory Hoggatt and Stewart Struthers) that responded to our picnic in Burke Lake Park in June 07.

    "Ofc Hoggatt [Struthers]responded to me and friends from OpenCarry.org in park legally Open Carrying firearms. He and partner were very professional, knew the law and that we were completely legal and was very friendly throughout. Details at: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum54/3190.html"
    Bob.. you scared me!!

    I like the web site.

    It lets the people know about the officer. Maybe he is great but there was a misunderstanding or he was having a bad day when they had negative contact.

    Maybe every entry is that he is a jerk and was a jerk to them too. Then they know to file a formal complaint!!!



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    Looks like the cop's concerns are over. I haven't been able to get on ratemycop.com since l first heard about it last Thursday. Now the website (including BobCav's links) brings up a page for Loving Family Dollhouses. Squatter?

    It will be interesting to see if the site comes back online, and if not, what the story ends up being as to it's near immediate demise.
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    I was there this AM before I posted my up-date. Ahhh, let me see my history file...yep, ratemycop.com worked just a couple of hours ago.

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    Doug Huffman wrote:
    I was there this AM before I posted my up-date. Ahhh, let me see my history file...yep, ratemycop.com worked just a couple of hours ago.
    Ditto It's working just fine for me...

    http://ratemycop.com/

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    jaredbelch wrote:
    Doug Huffman wrote:
    I was there this AM before I posted my up-date. Ahhh, let me see my history file...yep, ratemycop.com worked just a couple of hours ago.
    Ditto It's working just fine for me...

    http://ratemycop.com/
    It appears to be web server virtual hosting misconfiguration. I can get to the site fine if I use Internet Explorer, but it doesn't work with Firefox (Windows, Linux or OS X), Konqueror (Linux), Mozilla (Linux) or Safari (OS X). Retrieving http://ratemycop.com with wget grabs the doll home page, too. I have no idea how this can possibly work with IE, but it does.

    So, my suspicion is that it's relying on some bug or other non-conformity of Internet Explorer to handle the virtual host selection. That's beyond idiotic.

    Both lovingfamilydollhouses.com and ratemycop.com resolved to the same IP address (72.167.159.53) and the dollhouse site appears to be the default (i.e. if you use the IP address as the URL, that's what you get).

    Edited to add results of wget test.

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    I've read reports that the site was pulled by GoDaddy.com, the company that owns the actual domain name.

    http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/200...y-silence.html

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    swillden wrote:
    jaredbelch wrote:
    Doug Huffman wrote:
    I was there this AM before I posted my up-date. Ahhh, let me see my history file...yep, ratemycop.com worked just a couple of hours ago.
    Ditto It's working just fine for me...

    http://ratemycop.com/
    It appears to be web server virtual hosting misconfiguration. I can get to the site fine if I use Internet Explorer, but it doesn't work with Firefox (Windows, Linux or OS X), Konqueror (Linux), Mozilla (Linux) or Safari (OS X). Retrieving http://ratemycop.com with wget grabs the doll home page, too. I have no idea how this can possibly work with IE, but it does.

    So, my suspicion is that it's relying on some bug or other non-conformity of Internet Explorer to handle the virtual host selection. That's beyond idiotic.

    Both lovingfamilydollhouses.com and ratemycop.com resolved to the same IP address (72.167.159.53) and the dollhouse site appears to be the default (i.e. if you use the IP address as the URL, that's what you get).

    Edited to add results of wget test.
    I shut down my router & cable modem for about 20 minutes while I ran CleanUp!, Spybot and adaware scans and cleanups. Even in IE (I usually use firefox) I still cannot get the ratemycop page, just that stupid lovingfamilydollhouses. But then Charter is bad about clearing out their DNS servers and I had to use a friend's DNS server for about 2 months one time because of a bad address in Charter's cache for a forum I admin'd. Starting to tick me off :X I have yet to reach the page since I heard about it last week.
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    deepdiver wrote:
    I shut down my router & cable modem for about 20 minutes while I ran CleanUp!, Spybot and adaware scans and cleanups. Even in IE (I usually use firefox) I still cannot get the ratemycop page, just that stupid lovingfamilydollhouses. But then Charter is bad about clearing out their DNS servers and I had to use a friend's DNS server for about 2 months one time because of a bad address in Charter's cache for a forum I admin'd. Starting to tick me off :X I have yet to reach the page since I heard about it last week.
    It's not a DNS issue. Both the doll site and ratemycop resolve to the same IP address.

    What version of IE are you using? It's possible that whatever hack they're using for virtual host selection only works in some versions of IE.

    UPDATE1: Yep, that's it. I just updated my IE version from 5 to 6 (this was on a fresh copy of XP) and now it doesn't work for me any more either. I'll try updating to 7 and see what happens.

    UPDATE2: IE7 doesn't work. Trying IE8, just for giggles.

    UPDATE3: Okay, this is very weird. It turns out that the breakage when upgrading from IE5 to IE6 had nothing to do with the browser. The difference was that I turned off use of my proxy server (because the upgrade process had trouble working through the proxy).

    So what I see now is that all browsers work, but only if they're proxied through my squid proxy server first. Unproxied, all browsers take me to the doll site.

    For others who can use the site, can you describe your configuration?

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