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Doesn't sound too different from some locales in the US. In both countries,it's against the law but some cops do it anyway. Post-911, we even torture people, now.
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I don't believe torture has anything to do specifically with post-911 aside from the fact that it is more talked about now; prior to 9-11 it followed the 'out of sight out of mind' mentality. Governments and their agents have through out history always attempted to silence and/or coerce forcefully by various means and for various reasons. There have always been rogue agents of the state whether they are police or politicians that have acted contrary to the rights of the people. It is just after 9-11 and the 'trading liberty for a false sense of security' that people are finally starting to wake up and bringing it out in the open. Torture will never go away as long as there are persons charged with the upkeep of society of a number of people.
 
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Toad wrote:
Tomahawk wrote:
Doesn't sound too different from some locales in the US. In both countries,it's against the law but some cops do it anyway. Post-911, we even torture people, now.
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I don't believe torture has anything to do specifically with post-911 aside from the fact that it is more talked about now; prior to 9-11 it followed the 'out of sight out of mind' mentality. Governments and their agents have through out history always attempted to silence and/or coerce forcefully by various means and for various reasons. There have always been rogue agents of the state whether they are police or politicians that have acted contrary to the rights of the people. It is just after 9-11 and the 'trading liberty for a false sense of security' that people are finally starting to wake up and bringing it out in the open. Torture will never go away as long as there are persons charged with the upkeep of society of a number of people.
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Yes, but post-911, many in govenment and especially many commentators are now actually comfortable discussing it as an option. What was once almost unthinkable is now becoming more accepted. Too many idiots think that Jack Baur is real.
 
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Good point...I am glad I don't watch the boob tube so I don't have that negative influence. Well I do watch House; I like that show. I have to admit that torture has really progressed into a hidden hard to prove art form. Very scary considering that the US was intended to be a free nation.
 
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Oh, and one last word about Japan.

If you're wondering just how different Japanese and American culture are, take a look at this. Warning: if you're not on drugs now you will feel like you are about halfway through the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q16KpquGsIc

Now I want a hamburger...
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Can you say acid trip??

This video was painful to watch!
 
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