mmdkyoung123
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So I finally have had my first true "encounter" while open carrying, and it wasn't even with a LEO. I was walking out of the house this morning to head to work, and my landlord pulled up. The following is the conversation that ensued.
Landlord: "what the hell is that?" (like I insulted her.)
Myself: "That would be my sidearm, why do you ask?"
Landlord: "What do you need that for? You aren't a cop. You think your Wyatt Earp or something?"
Myself: "I keep a sidearm to protect my family and myself should the need ever arise. While I hope it never will, I intend to be ready if it does. I don't feel that a police officer is the only person qualified to carry a gun. I served for 8 years in the military, was a special forces officer, and I assure you that I have extensive training in the handling of weapons, and am probably more qualified and a better shot with a sidearm than the local police." (I really tried to sound polite, and not sarcastic or overbearing. Not sure if I pulled it off however.)
Landlord: "Well I don't care what training you have had. I don't like it and I'm telling you that you can't have that in my house."
Myself: "Well Ms. ___ I am renting the house from you under a valid lease agreement. While you own the house you have no legal standing to infringe on my rights, or my legal enjoyment of my place of residence." (I have no clue if that is true but it sounded good in my head so I fired away with it so to speak)
Landlord: "It's my house and I can tell you what you can and cant do any d*mned time I want to. If you are going to carry a F***ing gun then you aren't going to stay here."
Myself: "I haven't been swearing at you so you need to quite swearing at me. I have to go to work. If you believe I am doing something illegal then I would advise you to call the police." ( I HATE being sworn at. makes my Irish act up.)
Landlord" "I don't have to call the police and I am a grown ass woman and I will talk to you however I F***ing feel like. I am giving you 3 days to either get rid of your gun, or vacate my house. If you don't I'll come down here and throw your shit out." Then she got back in her car and left.
Now, I am certainly looking for another residence as she is apparently certifiably crazy. I had never met her before, as her son handled all of our interactions before. The son seemed quite professional, and reasonable. I called him on my way to work, and told him what had transpired. He apologized, and told me his mother had "issues" and not to worry about it he would talk to her. (She is probably in her late 60's or early 70's) Should I worry about this? Should I tell the son that i don't want his mother on my property again, and do I have any legs to stand on?? Or can I break the lease with out penalty and move? I know, I know.. I need to talk to a lawyer. Just seeing if anyone else has any thoughts in the mean time.
So I finally have had my first true "encounter" while open carrying, and it wasn't even with a LEO. I was walking out of the house this morning to head to work, and my landlord pulled up. The following is the conversation that ensued.
Landlord: "what the hell is that?" (like I insulted her.)
Myself: "That would be my sidearm, why do you ask?"
Landlord: "What do you need that for? You aren't a cop. You think your Wyatt Earp or something?"
Myself: "I keep a sidearm to protect my family and myself should the need ever arise. While I hope it never will, I intend to be ready if it does. I don't feel that a police officer is the only person qualified to carry a gun. I served for 8 years in the military, was a special forces officer, and I assure you that I have extensive training in the handling of weapons, and am probably more qualified and a better shot with a sidearm than the local police." (I really tried to sound polite, and not sarcastic or overbearing. Not sure if I pulled it off however.)
Landlord: "Well I don't care what training you have had. I don't like it and I'm telling you that you can't have that in my house."
Myself: "Well Ms. ___ I am renting the house from you under a valid lease agreement. While you own the house you have no legal standing to infringe on my rights, or my legal enjoyment of my place of residence." (I have no clue if that is true but it sounded good in my head so I fired away with it so to speak)
Landlord: "It's my house and I can tell you what you can and cant do any d*mned time I want to. If you are going to carry a F***ing gun then you aren't going to stay here."
Myself: "I haven't been swearing at you so you need to quite swearing at me. I have to go to work. If you believe I am doing something illegal then I would advise you to call the police." ( I HATE being sworn at. makes my Irish act up.)
Landlord" "I don't have to call the police and I am a grown ass woman and I will talk to you however I F***ing feel like. I am giving you 3 days to either get rid of your gun, or vacate my house. If you don't I'll come down here and throw your shit out." Then she got back in her car and left.
Now, I am certainly looking for another residence as she is apparently certifiably crazy. I had never met her before, as her son handled all of our interactions before. The son seemed quite professional, and reasonable. I called him on my way to work, and told him what had transpired. He apologized, and told me his mother had "issues" and not to worry about it he would talk to her. (She is probably in her late 60's or early 70's) Should I worry about this? Should I tell the son that i don't want his mother on my property again, and do I have any legs to stand on?? Or can I break the lease with out penalty and move? I know, I know.. I need to talk to a lawyer. Just seeing if anyone else has any thoughts in the mean time.