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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...1803105_2.html

    Youth Shot in Robbery Attempt[/b]


    An off-duty D.C. police officer shot and wounded a youth who was trying to rob him last night in Southeast Washington, D.C. police said. The incident occurred shortly after 9 p.m. in the 4600 block of Hanna Place. Police said the would-be robber, who appeared to be in his late teens, had a knife. He was taken to a hospital with a leg wound that was not believed to be life-threatening.

    Police said the officer was confronted after he got out of his car on his way to visit relatives. They said the officer fired his service pistol. A knife was recovered at the scene. Neither the officer nor the would-be robber was named. Police said the officer was assigned to the training academy and has been on the force for 20 years.


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    WASHINGTON -- An off-duty D.C. police officer in Southeast shot a teenager late Tuesday night.

    The shooting happened in the 4600 block of Hanna Place SE at about 10 p.m.

    Police said the 17-year-old tried to rob the officer with a knife. The off-duty officer then pulled out his gun and shot the boy in the buttock.

    The teenager was expected to survive. The officer, a 20-year veteran of the D.C. Police Department, wasn't hurt.

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    Well that clinches it. The DC PD and city gov't were indubitably correct in their Heller position.

    Obviously, criminals only rob cops so "civilians" do not need firearms as they will only be victims if they are mistaken as cops. Furthermore, it is obvious from this case that an officer has the shooting ability and self control to simply wound criminals in the buttocks rather than killing them, clearly abilities that a mere mortal "civilian" would not have (although DC cops should note that wounding an illegal alien criminal in the buttocks will get them several years in prison).
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    The timing of this couldn't be better. I hope the kid learned a lesson.

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    It kills me that DC has so many criminals robbing people and the people cannot fight back.

    This cop was able to shoot this guy and stop the act. The kid is not going to be robbing anything for a little while... unless DC lets him out of jail by mistake. (Not that it would ever happen)

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    Or its a 'bad shoot' - in the buttocks

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    Doug Huffman wrote:
    Or its a 'bad shoot' - in the buttocks
    That's what I was thinking...if one of us were to shoot the young thug in the ass, wouldn't we get hung out to dry? After all, the poor defenseless criminal was just trying to run away, and was no longer a threat...

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    Now if non-leo could carry there, it might be a safer society.

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    worrbaron wrote:
    Now if non-leo could carry there, it might be a safer society.
    Stop making since...lol :celebrate

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    Come on.... The kid brought a knife to a gun fight!! He obviously believed the guy was not going to be armed with a handgun.

    You know what is funny?? How many cops in DC have been victims of DC crime!! The criminalsdo not even pray on who they believe are week. They go for anyone walking in public.

    DC needs to allow citizens to be armed.

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    I wonder how many rank and file officers agree with the DC police chief as to the handgun ban. Anyone ever seen any data?
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    LEO 229 wrote:
    You know what is funny?? How many cops in DC have been victims of DC crime!! The criminalsdo not even pray on who they believe are week. They go for anyone walking in public.

    DC needs to allow citizens to be armed.
    Are the criminals brazen or are the cops walking around in condition white?

    If I remember correctly there have been quite a few in the last yr or two.

    Two USSS agentscarjacked, theyhadtheir Hummer and trailer stolen.
    NYC cop on vacation shoot (killed?)his attackerthen returned to NY were he reported it.
    A few off duty Prince George County cops also had car jacking incidents.
    The two off duty DC cops that had their motorbike stolen by an alleged gun totting teen, the teen was shot and killed.

    These are the only ones I remember off hand, there might bemore.

    Criminals have no fear in some of our largest cities.

    The average citizen isn't safe in our Nations Capital and other victim rich cities.




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    If the people of Washington D.C. don't need guns, why do off duty police need them? The streets are safe enough for you & me, why not for a police officer in street clothes? The police should have to lock their weapons up at the police station BEFORE they are allowed back out on the street UNLESS they are in uniform.

    If this officer wasn't allowed to carry that gun, this boy wouldn't have been shot. It would be one less instance of gun violence that has to be reported.

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    Get rid of 60% of the population of Washington, DC, and crime would drop at least 90% overnight...which would mean mugging/robbery encounters would be rare as hen's teeth.

    But since that won't happen anytime soon, just carry anyway and everywhere you can.

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    Leader wrote:
    [quote]If the people of Washington D.C. don't need guns, why do off duty police need them? The streets are safe enough for you & me, why not for a police officer in street clothes? The police should have to lock their weapons up at the police station BEFORE they are allowed back out on the street UNLESS they are in uniform.


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    cloudcroft wrote:
    Get rid of 60% of the population of Washington, DC, and crime would drop at least 90% overnight...
    But then who would the people turn to if all/most of the Politicians are gone??

    If the peopledon't need guns, why do off duty police need them? The streets are safe enough for you & me, why not for a police officer in street clothes?

    The police should have to lock their weapons up at the police station BEFORE they are allowed back out on the street UNLESS they are in uniform.

    Agreed!!!!
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    Agent19 wrote:
    LEO 229 wrote:
    You know what is funny?? How many cops in DC have been victims of DC crime!! The criminalsdo not even pray on who they believe are week. They go for anyone walking in public.

    DC needs to allow citizens to be armed.
    Are the criminals brazen or are the cops walking around in condition white?

    ...snipped
    The criminals know what they can get away with. They are playing the odds that most of their criminals will not be armed.

    And if you think about it.... how many law enforcement agencies do they have in DC????

    USSS, FBI, Capitol, Park, Meto, Transit, Homeland, plus so many more... My god.... the odds of robbing a LEO are good.

    But the criminals simply do not care. It is a free for all there and they know.. I will just drive away since the DC police CANNOT chase you in a car!!!



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    I totally agree.
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    Criminals have no fear in some of our largest cities.

    The average citizen isn't safe in our Nations Capital and other victim rich cities.
    snipped...from my OP
    Those are just the LE agencies/dept working in the area.
    Have to consider all the vacationing LEO's carrying on HR 218 and the ones from neighboring States.

    With so many LEO's in DC(on/off duty)why is the violent crime rate so high?:?
    You think there is a cop on every corner.

    www.benbest.com/lifeext/murder.html

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    Is it just me or does the fact that the robber was shot in the buttocks strike you as a bit odd?

    In order to hit someone in the ass, they have to be facing the opposite direction -- so, did the officer fire while the robber was running? Perhaps he saw the cop pull the gun and he turned around and ran?

    No longer a threat?

    Not that I don't think that should matter if someone pulls a knife or gun on you, but you know this will be brought up.

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    LEO 229 wrote:
    The criminals know what they can get away with. They are playing the odds that most of their criminals will not be armed.

    And if you think about it.... how many law enforcement agencies do they have in DC????

    USSS, FBI, Capitol, Park, Meto, Transit, Homeland, plus so many more... My god.... the odds of robbing a LEO are good.

    But the criminals simply do not care. It is a free for all there and they know.. I will just drive away since the DC police CANNOT chase you in a car!!!

    These areas in DC are limited, and the times of days that you see all the USSS, FBI, Capitol, Park, Metro/Transit, Homeland, and those carrying under LEOSA.

    Odds are even better that they will not be in other areas at all.

    When DC had the "enforcement" zones, they pulled officers from one area to to another. Guess what the criminals did... They moved to were the officers had been pulled from. Some of them even moved to the Mall causing a big media storm when tourist were getting robbed.

    Several of the officers I work with will not carry in DC because of the harassment that DC gives even for legal carry. Many more only come to DC for work.

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    Wynder wrote:
    Is it just me or does the fact that the robber was shot in the buttocks strike you as a bit odd?

    In order to hit someone in the ass, they have to be facing the opposite direction -- so, did the officer fire while the robber was running? Perhaps he saw the cop pull the gun and he turned around and ran?

    No longer a threat?

    Not that I don't think that should matter if someone pulls a knife or gun on you, but you know this will be brought up.
    I would say the guy saw the gun popping out and at the moment of the shot... turned to avoid it and it winged him.

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    "But then who would the people turn to if all/most of the Politicians are gone??" -- Agent19,

    I don't know -- althoughwe could afford to lose ALL of them -- but I wasn't talking about politicians.

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    LEO 229 wrote:
    Wynder wrote:
    Is it just me or does the fact that the robber was shot in the buttocks strike you as a bit odd?

    In order to hit someone in the ass, they have to be facing the opposite direction -- so, did the officer fire while the robber was running? Perhaps he saw the cop pull the gun and he turned around and ran?

    No longer a threat?

    Not that I don't think that should matter if someone pulls a knife or gun on you, but you know this will be brought up.
    I would say the guy saw the gun popping out and at the moment of the shot... turned to avoid it and it winged him.
    I could go with that..yea...yea...it was like ...he was swinging the knife at me and as I squeezed the trigger..he like...jumped 180...and like... BAM... Right in the buttocks! Dumb criminals! The Cop should be Exhonorated for his Heroics in curbing the city's crime BUT, he should be punished for poor marksmanship and sent to class to work on his "center mass" shooting skills.

    On second thought, maybewe shouldcheck fora misprint in the DC Police manual.Maybe they forgot the "m", so it read "center a$$". :what:

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    I could go with that..yea...yea...it was like ...he was swinging the knife at me and as I squeezed the trigger..he like...jumped 180...and like... BAM... Right in the buttocks! Dumb criminals! The Cop should be Exhonorated for his Heroics in curbing the city's crime BUT, he should be punished for poor marksmanship and sent to class to work on his "center mass" shooting skills.

    On second thought, maybewe shouldcheck fora misprint in the DC Police manual.Maybe they forgot the "m", so it read "center a$$". :what:
    Being that close..... I cannot see why center mass was not achieved.

    But maybe someone pulled the trigger while clearing the holster and it was aimed down. I wonder.... where exactly didthe shot make entry....

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    Maybe he hit the BULLSEYE ?!?!? :shock:

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    OneShot wrote:
    Maybe he hit the BULLSEYE ?!?!? :shock:
    :what:

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