OPEN CARRY AT SCHOOLS?

No. You are prohibited from openly carrying on school property at any time.

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Renegade wrote:

No. You are prohibited from openly carrying on school property at any time.

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Well.. thanks for your answer but thats wrong too.. I already KNOW I can carry ON the property in the traffic circle (which is on school property)..

§18.2-308.1: School property. Exemptions to this statute include a person who has a valid concealed handgun permit and possesses a concealed handgun while in a motor vehicle in a parking lot, traffic circle, or other means of vehicular ingress or egress to the school.

It is THIS part I have the question with...

"B. If any person possesses any firearm designed or intended to expel a projectile by action of an explosion of a combustible material while such person is upon (i) any public, private or religious elementary, middle or high school, including buildings and grounds; (ii) that portion of any property open to the public and then exclusively used for school-sponsored functions or extracurricular activities while such functions or activities are taking place; or (iii) any school bus owned or operated by any such school, he shall be guilty of a Class 6 felony"

"while such functions or activities are taking place"..

Is a politician town meeting a "school" fucntion?

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Renegade wrote:

No. You are prohibited from openly carrying on school property at any time.

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Well.. thanks for your answer but thats wrong too.. I already KNOW I can carry ON the property in the traffic circle (which is on school property)..

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ed wrote:

Renegade wrote:

No. You are prohibited from openly carrying on school property at any time.

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Well.. thanks for your answer but thats wrong too.. I already KNOW I can carry ON the property in the traffic circle (which is on school property)..

§18.2-308.1: School property. Exemptions to this statute include a person who has a valid concealed handgun permit and possesses a concealed handgun while in a motor vehicle in a parking lot, traffic circle, or other means of vehicular ingress or egress to the school.

It is THIS part I have the question with...

"B. If any person possesses any firearm designed or intended to expel a projectile by action of an explosion of a combustible material while such person is upon (i) any public, private or religious elementary, middle or high school, including buildings and grounds; (ii) that portion of any property open to the public and then exclusively used for school-sponsored functions or extracurricular activities while such functions or activities are taking place; or (iii) any school bus owned or operated by any such school, he shall be guilty of a Class 6 felony"

"while such functions or activities are taking place"..

Is a politician town meeting a "school" fucntion?

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Doesn't matter ed...it appears you are reading the "or" as an "and"...think about it like this:

If any person possesses any firearm designed or intended to expel a projectile by action of an explosion of a combustible material while such person is upon

i)any public, private or religious elementary, middle or high school, including buildings and grounds;
OR
ii) that portion of any property open to the public and then exclusively used for school-sponsored functions or extracurricular activities while such functions or activities are taking place;
OR
iii)any school bus owned or operated by any such school

he shall be guilty of a Class 6 felony.

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Bayboy42 is correct. With exception of having a concealed handgun in your vehicle as long as you don't exit that vehicle, you can't have a gun on k-12 property.

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http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-308.1

I read that.. confusing as hell.. Basically if a politician wants to hold a "town hall" type meeting at a local school.. can you open carry legally?

Thanks.

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Okay then... here's a good one for ya...

Last year when I took the MSF course, it was on a local school property. I was told that we're allowed to use the parking lot (as it has MSF markings for maneuvers, etc) anytime after 6pm if we wanted to practice on our own bikes there.

I got my bike back up and on the road this weekend and wanted to go down to the school to practice my stops, turns and other low speed maneuvers. BUT, I was carrying under my motorcycle jacket, so I didn't go as I didn't know the legality of it and opted for a nearby (smaller) parking lot without markings.

Now, would I technically be legal to ride my motorcycle on K-12 property with a concealed (or open??) handgun so long as I don't dismount from my motorcycle? Would I have to lock it up in my baggage? Or, do I have to leave it at home, ride unprotected for 30 minutes, practice unprotected for an unknown period of time, then ride 30 minutes back home unprotected.... or just find another parking lot in which to practice (but they won't have the neat little course lines already painted on them).

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Now, would I technically be legal to ride my motorcycle on K-12 property with a concealed (or open??) handgun so long as I don't dismount from my motorcycle? Would I have to lock it up in my baggage? Or, do I have to leave it at home, ride unprotected for 30 minutes, practice unprotected for an unknown period of time, then ride 30 minutes back home unprotected.... or just find another parking lot in which to practice (but they won't have the neat little course lines already painted on them).

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If you go to a public place that is not part of a K-12 school, say a swim club, you can carry there UNLESS there is a K-12 school function in progress which is using that facility exclusively for such school function and that function is happening.

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VCDL President wrote:

If you go to a public place that is not part of a K-12 school, say a swim club, you can carry there UNLESS there is a K-12 school function in progress which is using that facility exclusively for such school function and that function is happening.

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Does the word "exclusively" mean that it's closed to the public? Meaning that unless I'm a part of the school function I shouldn't be able to get in.

Basically I want to be sure that there is no way I can walk into a public place by myself not being aware of any school function and be charged with a fellony.

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72Malibu wrote:

Now, would I technically be legal to ride my motorcycle on K-12 property with a concealed (or open??) handgun so long as I don't dismount from my motorcycle? Would I have to lock it up in my baggage? Or, do I have to leave it at home, ride unprotected for 30 minutes, practice unprotected for an unknown period of time, then ride 30 minutes back home unprotected.... or just find another parking lot in which to practice (but they won't have the neat little course lines already painted on them).

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As I read the code "(vii) a person who has a valid concealed handgun permit and possesses a concealed handgun" this would suggest that you are permitted to drive onto school property while lawfully carrying concealed but the firearm MUST remain concealed.

I know when I visit the school one of a bizillion times per year to pick up children I always make sure I am concealed and remain that way.

You could also unload your weapon (off school property) and secure it in an enclosed container such as your saddle bag. Or mount your "unloaded shotgun or rifle in a firearms rack in or upon a motor vehicle."

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