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Blackhawk dissapointment

mmdkyoung123

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Well, I wanted to get a serpa for the SW40VE I bought but they don't make one. Theonly one that I have been able to find is the FOBUS paddle, but I believe I read that they can break away if pulled to hard?? Does anyone have any thoughts or input on a good/great holster? I am looking for a paddle holster with an adjustable cant, and level 2 retention.
 

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DreQo wrote:
Check out Safariland's ALS line of holsters. I did sort of a review on them here: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum62/5499.html

They make their holsters for most handguns, so I would be surprised if they didn't make one for yours.


Thanks for the info. I had already checked out that post and looked at safariland. They do make one for my particular gun, just trying to find the best place to oreder it from, and/or, if there are any other holsters out there that might be better etc. Thanks for the help DreQo

Mike
 

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I used it with my SW9VE and it fit as well as it does with the one I have for my XD.

mmdkyoung123 wrote:
longwatch wrote:
The Serpa for Glock 20,21 and M&P 45s fits the Sigma. I've tried it myself.
does it fit snug, or did you have to make "modifications". Just curious is all. Hopefully that will work then and I can go pick one up at Bass pro shop.
 

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mmdkyoung123 wrote:
so is the cant on them adjustable? I cant remember if it was when I looked at them

Yes, they're preset, though by screws. You unscrew the belt/paddle attachment, and you can cant forwards, backwards or level.
 

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mmdkyoung123 wrote:
longwatch wrote:
The Serpa for Glock 20,21 and M&P 45s fits the Sigma. I've tried it myself.
does it fit snug, or did you have to make "modifications". Just curious is all. Hopefully that will work then and I can go pick one up at Bass pro shop.
Do that at your own risk, friend. :D
 

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DreQo wrote:
mmdkyoung123 wrote:
longwatch wrote:
The Serpa for Glock 20,21 and M&P 45s fits the Sigma. I've tried it myself.
does it fit snug, or did you have to make "modifications". Just curious is all. Hopefully that will work then and I can go pick one up at Bass pro shop.
Do that at your own risk, friend. :D
Definitely a warning worth heeding; however, I took into consideration that the Sigma series was so much of a duplicate with regards to the Glock, that Glock took them to court for a patent violation (which they later resolved by shaving a few millimeters off of an internal component.
 

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Wynder wrote:
DreQo wrote:
mmdkyoung123 wrote:
longwatch wrote:
The Serpa for Glock 20,21 and M&P 45s fits the Sigma. I've tried it myself.
does it fit snug, or did you have to make "modifications". Just curious is all. Hopefully that will work then and I can go pick one up at Bass pro shop.
Do that at your own risk, friend. :D
Definitely a warning worth heeding; however, I took into consideration that the Sigma series was so much of a duplicate with regards to the Glock, that Glock took them to court for a patent violation (which they later resolved by shaving a few millimeters off of an internal component.
Noo, I'm talking about buying a blackhawk holster, period!:D
 

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DreQo wrote:
Wynder wrote:
DreQo wrote:
mmdkyoung123 wrote:
longwatch wrote:
The Serpa for Glock 20,21 and M&P 45s fits the Sigma. I've tried it myself.
does it fit snug, or did you have to make "modifications". Just curious is all. Hopefully that will work then and I can go pick one up at Bass pro shop.
Do that at your own risk, friend. :D
Definitely a warning worth heeding; however, I took into consideration that the Sigma series was so much of a duplicate with regards to the Glock, that Glock took them to court for a patent violation (which they later resolved by shaving a few millimeters off of an internal component.
Noo, I'm talking about buying a blackhawk holster, period!:D
Bah!

A good deal of the guys in Delaware Open Carry use them for our every day carry holsters. I use mine for competition, so I'm presenting from the holster very often. Personally never had an issue and recommend them to anyone who asks about a L2 holster.
 

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Wynder wrote:
*snip*
Bah!

A good deal of the guys in Delaware Open Carry use them for our every day carry holsters. I use mine for competition, so I'm presenting from the holster very often. Personally never had an issue and recommend them to anyone who asks about a L2 holster.
But umm...you see, what blackhawk calls a "level 2", is really only level 1.
 

mmdkyoung123

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DreQo wrote:
Wynder wrote:
*snip*
Bah!

A good deal of the guys in Delaware Open Carry use them for our every day carry holsters. I use mine for competition, so I'm presenting from the holster very often. Personally never had an issue and recommend them to anyone who asks about a L2 holster.
But umm...you see, what blackhawk calls a "level 2", is really only level 1.
LOL Here we go again. I read the OTHER 30 page post (might be a SLIGHT exageration) about Blackhawk, level 2 and the true definition, and ensuing argument about the levels of holsters.
 

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mmdkyoung123 wrote:
DreQo wrote:
Wynder wrote:
*snip*
Bah!

A good deal of the guys in Delaware Open Carry use them for our every day carry holsters. I use mine for competition, so I'm presenting from the holster very often. Personally never had an issue and recommend them to anyone who asks about a L2 holster.
But umm...you see, what blackhawk calls a "level 2", is really only level 1.
LOL Here we go again. I read the OTHER 30 page post (might be a SLIGHT exageration) about Blackhawk, level 2 and the true definition, and ensuing argument about the levels of holsters.
:DI'm just sayin...
 

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mmdkyoung123 wrote:
Well, I wanted to get a serpa for the SW40VE I bought but they don't make one. Theonly one that I have been able to find is the FOBUS paddle, but I believe I read that they can break away if pulled to hard?? Does anyone have any thoughts or input on a good/great holster? I am looking for a paddle holster with an adjustable cant, and level 2 retention.

I bought a S&W 4006 and wanted a Serpa holster. After looking at several holsters I fitted mine to a H&K P30. I had to make a few "modifications" though.

I fits well now.



TJ
 

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Thanks for all the help guys. I am going to stop by bass pro shop and see if they have any on the way home from work tonight. I am going to pick one up if they do and wear it sunday for the grocery shopping trip with the family. Will let you guys know how it go's, and what I think.



P.S. Dreqo, If any one try's to "snatch and grab" my sidearm, after I break there arm in half, I will happily let them know that while the serpa holster is REALLY a level I holster, my breaking there arm made it a level II. Their mistake. :celebrate
 

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mmdkyoung123 wrote:
Thanks for all the help guys. I am going to stop by bass pro shop and see if they have any on the way home from work tonight. I am going to pick one up if they do and wear it sunday for the grocery shopping trip with the family. Will let you guys know how it go's, and what I think.



P.S. Dreqo, If any one try's to "snatch and grab" my sidearm, after I break there arm in half, I will happily let them know that while the serpa holster is REALLY a level I holster, my breaking there arm made it a level II. Their mistake. :celebrate
lol Yeah. Don't get me wrong,IF they work properly, the Serpas hold onto the weapon great! I just don't like that they say their product is something that it's not.
 

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Well whatever level it is a Sigma will fit without modification. It will be a tiny bit loose but adjusting the tension screw may fix that.
 

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DreQo wrote:
lol Yeah. Don't get me wrong,IF they work properly, the Serpas hold onto the weapon great! I just don't like that they say their product is something that it's not.
+1

Absolutely agreed. Great product, but the name is borderline false advertising.
 
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