Carrying to a business lunch?

Rey

You have to ask yourself: "Do I want to be 'outed' now or later on?"

You will be sooner or later, so it's just a question of when.

In this case, you may want CC first in orderto "feel out" where these other people's heads are at (re: the RKBA, CC/OC, etc.) and take it from there. You don't want to make things unpleasant at work for you later onif it's notREALLY necessary to do so (that's just being prudent).

Besides, you can always OC NEXT time if you want.

-- John D.

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Well, first questions that come to mind for me are whether your company has a policy about keeping firearms locked in employee vehicles on company property and whether your vehicle is in fact parked on company property.

Second, I'm assuming that you would be riding with someone else... which, to retrieve your firearm, you would have to go to your personal vehicle to acquire your firearm in the first place.

Third, what's preventing you from driving your own vehicle to the establishment in your own vehicle so that you would be able to leave your firearm in your vehicle if the restaurant is a defenseless victims zone.

Lastly, although you're well within your right to carry, some things to consider are the outcome for you from this meeting, whether them knowing you're armed will arise suspicion and you could be subject to random searches of your person or vehicle for firearms (if company policy says it can) now that they would have even the slightest inkling of a thought that you could be armed on the property.



This is one of those individual choices that nobody can really answer unless they're in your shoes. You may attract some unwanted attention or make an unwanted impression if they're anti-gun, or if they're pro-gun, you could be looked up to for it.

Personally, with my company atmosphere and the job market not so much in my favor (and the fact that I can't keep a firearm on my person or in my vehicle with company policy), and If I was in your situation, I would have to go unarmed... unless I were to park my vehicle off company property, drive to the restaurant myself, etc. And on top of that, with the way things work here, I would probably be suspected to be carrying on my person or in my vehicle, which they may view as cause for unwanted "harassment" wanting to search my person, affects and vehicle, and if I were to declinewould possibly result in my dismissal, so I would be coerced into allowing a search, because if I have nothing to hide... I wouldn't mind if they check... right?

I think you have to figure out what the potential rammifications of both are. Be a sheep for an hour or so or face suspicion for the rest of your employment with your company.

Granted, the argument could be said that even being a sheep for an hour could result in being dead forever... but you do haveone advantage, being a carrier, you are used to (or shouldbe) beingalert of your surroundings and what's going on.I would assume that mostsheeple are typically oblivious of their surroundings.

At risk of drawing fire for leaving the impression that I would suggest going unarmed... if you do decide to, I would say that while there, in your mind... have a plan. Imagine scenarios and what you would do if a threat were to present itself.

Just because someone has a firearm doesn't mean they're invincible. Remember, it's not the gun that does the harm, it's the people. The gun is a tool. To be an effective carrier and effective at self defense, your mind does most of the work, your gun is just a tool. If you have trained your mind, but are absent the tool, it doesn't mean you're 100% vulnerable. You just need to be more resourceful.

(Intelligence + Awareness + Training+ Firearm) > (Stupidity + Firearm)

Being that most criminals fall into the "Stupidity + Firearm" category, even minus the firearm one could still have an advantage.

(Intelligence + Awareness + Training) > (Stupidity + Firearm)

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I don't carry at work because it's against company policy. I used to, but the Marine in me kept screaming that I was disobeying orders and I was a nasty pig.So I keep it in the car but put it on when I go to lunch and when I leave for home.

I have a CCW so I can wear whatever I want and carry. I always wear business attire, sometimes with a coat or jacket.

Here's the question: I have been invited to a business lunch. Knowing that you've only been with this firm for two months and the sight of you walking into the restaurant to sit with business partners strapped (thanks governor kaine) would probably stiffen the gentry; and knowing you will probably be asked to ride with the company president in his car...

WHAT WOULD YOU DO??

I don't want to freak these people out. But it's a public place and I'm fully within my rights to carry my firearm legally, as I do everywhere else.

My best option so far is to wear a coat until we get there. Casually take it off when we enter. Be extremely pleasant.

Here's the nightmare scenario, I get to the door and there's a big fat "No Guns Allowed - defensless victims inside" sign!

"Excuse me Mr President, may I leave my rather lovely Kimber .45 in your glovebox? Heheh...thanks..."

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the Marine in me kept screaming that I was disobeying orders and I was a nasty pig.

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