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    http://www.newsobserver.com/news/edu...y/1030367.html

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    Less than a day before the March 15 district round of the decades-old N.C. Wildlife Resources Commission competition, one of East Wake's principals, with the support of the area superintendent who oversees that school, stopped the team from participating.
    The reason: Ammo and students don't mix, the school officials said.
    Like districts across the nation, Wake County bans deadly weapons from campuses and prohibits students from carrying them on school trips. But the decision to bar the East Wake team from the tournament extends that prohibition to students participating in an off-campus event sponsored by a state agency and supervised by adults certified in firearms safety.
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    At least one gun-control advocate agrees with the decision.
    "The school and school board should have that right," said Roxane Kolar, executive director of North Carolinians Against Gun Violence. "You have to assume a school knows what's best for their school."
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    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    That knucklehead is lucky he isn't here and pulling that crap at my kid's school. I would ensure my kid continued in the competition. Try to stop him and the principal and the superintendant would end up having to buy their underwear used at goodwill.

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    Nelson_Muntz wrote:
    That knucklehead is lucky he isn't here and pulling that crap at my kid's school. I would ensure my kid continued in the competition. Try to stop him and the principal and the superintendant would end up having to buy their underwear used at goodwill.
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    Thats absolutely ridiculous. I have raised my son around firearms the same way I was, he knows that he may see it and touch it anytime he asks, and he will NOT touch one without myself or his grandpa there with him. Not allowing kids around guns just makes them more ignorant to the function and consequences of a gun, thus making them more likely to have an accident with one if/when they do touch one. (IMHO) What better arena to teach kids about the safe handling of a gun than a competition supervised by proper individuals.

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    And the article didn't really given a reason why the kids were barred, did it?

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    deanf wrote:
    And the article didn't really given a reason why the kids were barred, did it?
    My understanding is they applied the school's 'zero tolerance' for weapons policy to an off-campus, after school, supervised, state sponsored activity.
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    Is it a school or a Siberian prison camp?

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    That would be like expelling a kid for going to the range with his dad on a saturday or hunting during buck season...WTF is wrong with these schools?!?!?

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    It sounds like 2 knuckleheads are running (and ruining) the lives of these kids, counter to NC law. Unbelievable...

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    I like how they waited until the very last minute to pull the rug out from under these kids, too, to make sure they didn't have time to fight it. What a-holes. You gotta believe this was planned for weeks, and they got a big belly laugh at the kids spending time and money practicing and preparing for the match.

    The team should see if they can form a private club team not affiliated with the school and compete in some matches that way, instead.

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    Evil Ernie wrote:
    That would be like expelling a kid for going to the range with his dad on a saturday or hunting during buck season...WTF is wrong with these schools?!?!?
    Exactly, following that logic I should have been expelled in 5th grade, and never let into another school. (when I started hunting and shooting with my dad)

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    Why parents outsource the moral and philosophical development of their children to clueless strangers in the government schools,I will never understand.

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    Evil Ernie wrote:
    That would be like expelling a kid for going to the range with his dad on a saturday or hunting during buck season...
    Not quite. It seems to me the marksmanship team was affiliated with the school in some (semi-)official capacity, and I guess schools can have some say over extra-curricular activities in which the school's name is used (even if it's as dumb as this).

    But what I don't get is if the school district has this policy that no student gets to do any extra-curricular activity with firearms in that student's capacity as a student of that school, why does the school-affiliated marksmanship team even exist in the first place?

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    Evil Ernie wrote:
    That would be like expelling a kid for going to the range with his dad on a saturday or hunting during buck season...WTF is wrong with these schools?!?!?
    That's probably the next step...

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    Evil Ernie wrote:
    That would be like expelling a kid for going to the range with his dad on a saturday or hunting during buck season...WTF is wrong with these schools?!?!?
    40 years of gun-control hysteria carefully cultivated by the media. (Counting from the 1968 Gun Control Act).

    No accountability.

    They're government agents.

    They're also interested in CYA.

    By now, we've probably got a fair number of teachers who were themselves taught in school that guns are evil, dangerous, the world would be a better place without them. Now they're teaching the next bunch, some of whom will grow up to be teachers.

    Etc. Etc. Etc.


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    Our schools are becoming bastions of socialist behavior. They are recruitment centers for liberalism and restriction.

    I was on my school rifle team. The gun range is inside the school, adjacent to the gymnasium. I was also inmy JROTC unit and we fired M-16's and M-60's on a military range during fallcamp.No parent that I ever heard of made any negative comments about any of that much less a political figure or aschool board.

    Of course, it was in Alaska...
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    Euromutt wrote:
    But what I don't get is if the school district has this policy that no student gets to do any extra-curricular activity with firearms in that student's capacity as a student of that school, why does the school-affiliated marksmanship team even exist in the first place?
    I guarantee the rifle team has been a part of the school system longer than these idiots have been. It is an old sport, and has been part of many athletic curriculums since its inception. These schmucks (and I use this term with the utmost respect for non schmuck members of the educational system) are ready to destroy school heritage and the opportunity for many kids to get scholarships in their sport of choice.

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    Looks like it is time to vote out a school board for one that can think and has common sense.

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    Reminds me of an news piece I watched about some little kid who had an assignment to make a historical diorama. He chose the Normandy Invasion which was either pre-approved by the teacher or was directly assigned to him or was part of a list, I can't remember. Anyway, he used those little green plastic soldiers for it and was immediately detained and told to cut the little guns off of the soldiers. All part of their "Zero Intelligence/Tolerance" campaign. I'll see if I can find it.


    OK, I was way off track but still this is the story I heard about...

    http://www.nworeport.com/toy.htm

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    Evil Ernie wrote:
    SNIP All part of their "Zero Intelligence/Tolerance" campaign.
    Except this isn't Zero Tolerance.

    Its cover and smoke screen to be able to push their sick agenda on kids, the next generation.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    So where is the list of Socialist Enemies of America and how can we add these idiots to the list?

    Del Burns and Roxanne Kolar,by your deeds and words you have shown yourself to be what you truly are: manipulative, self-serving cowards,socialists and enemies of liberty and freedom and and insult to America. I am ashamed to call you my countrymen.



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    Zero Tolerance is not equivalent to 'zero intelligence' as Zero Tolerance/Intelligence may imply. Zero Tolerance is thoughtlessness.

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    Evil Ernie wrote:
    OK, I was way off track but still this is the story I heard about...

    http://www.nworeport.com/toy.htm
    That's it, there is no hope. We might as well give up...our country is lost.

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