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imperialism2024 wrote:
Hmm nice. I wonder how many people over there can draw from concealment as quickly as someone who is OCing... and how they're going to do that and not be charged with homocide.
That's one of the issues I have with CCing, from a tactical standpoint. Except in very few instances, you'll need to get out of the "action" in order to draw, and then re-enter the "action" in your attempt to stop it, when you obviously had an opportunity to retreat when you were drawing. And if you can't get your gun out of concealment without getting noticed (and shot), congrats, your gun is doing you no good.
Anyhow, I'd tend to think that the number of criminals scared off by a citizen OCing a gun is far higher than those who just don't care if their victim is armed.
It depends on how deeply you conceal. An IWB holster under an untucked collared shirt is only slightly slower than your average 3:00 OC holster. With a jacket on, I would argue across-draw from a concealed shoulder holster is faster than a hip draw OWB (no waistband or tails to contend with).
With a tucked shirt and no jacket (my standard work attire), the options for a fast draw of a large gun get more costly. You can carry IWB with an internal gun belt at 1:00, 4:00 or 11:00. At 1:00, you have to untuck to draw, plain and simple. You can modify the side seam of a shirt with some velcro to provide fast access to 4:00 carry, or set up a false button in your shirt front to draw from 11:00. In any case, that's why subcompacts were designed; a G26 or S&W Airweight snubby in your front right pocket requires little more than a pocket holster to ensure it stays put.
And yes, a BUG or other subcompact deeply concealed in an ankle holster is going to take time to get to. That's why it's a BUG. You draw, point and pull, then take a quick visual sweep for cover and get behind it. That holds whether your main gun's first shot put the BG on the ground and you'repulling out your cell phone,or itblew up in your hand and you're goingfor your backup.
Bottom line is, if you are drawn on, you better be a
CFDA champion if you hope to beat it, OC or otherwise. If you have the time to draw, and have practiced drawing quickly from your chosen location,whether you are drawing from an open holster or concealmentdoesn't make as much difference as you think. CC affects your choice of wardrobe and weapon more than OC, I grant you, but as long as the right choices are made a CC draw's speed is nothing to sneeze at.