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    Since a lot of us are in rural areas, and PA and Virginia are somewhat similiar in geography and natural resources....well were Americans too... Whats your take on this?

    "You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them," Obama said. "And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

    They deleted my post over onDefensiveCarry.com and slapped me with a warning infraction for sayin b~slapped. Before the post got deleted there were several pro Obama posts!! Hopefully you guys here are a little more 1st amendment friendly.

    It looks like obamas just slapped all us rural church going folks in the face.
    He said today<SATURDAY> in a townhall meeting that we wouldnt back down from this statement, then here a couple hours ago after clinton bite back he flip flopped and said he was out of line.

    ""I didn’t say it as well as I should have, because the truth is these traditions that are passed on from generation to generation, those are important,” Obama said in Muncie, Ind., minutes before Clinton jumped in and called his remarks “elitist.”

    “But what is absolutely true is that people want to feel like they’re being listened to. And so they pray, and they count on each other and they count on their families,” Obama continued

    Looks like he didnt back down from the gun part... So we all know hes anti-gun, and made his point...Now Hillary is using the word "like to hunt". I hope I kept this narrow enough to discuss.

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    I was absolutely shocked by the statement. The narrow minded stereotyping that formulated that statement was astounding.The elitist tone really reminds meof a socialistspeech.


    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

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    To me, it sounds like he is the bitter one. Apparently, he doesn't appreciate voters strongly favoring certain positions that he is weak on. I am positive many americans are voting soley on the issue of the Iraq war (to withdraw) and I doubt Obama has a problem with that.



    I am not sure why some people declare some positions valid or not. Personally, if you want to vote for Obama based on the fact he likes pizza..... so what?

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    It is becoming even more clear he is a tolalitarian and a closet racist.

    Since no one knows anything about him, he has a small voting record, he will make GWB look like Mother Teresa.

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    Nobody should be shocked by this statement. In his book "Dreams from my Fater" He talks about "Typical white men". This shouldn't surprise anyone.

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    Guns and religion are realizations of American Values that B. Hussein Obama rejejcts in favor of Islam and OWG. His ideas will not survive.

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    For more good excerpts from Obama's book, check out this column: http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/...gi?article=243

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    He also said that they would vote guns and religion over economics. So in his eyes it's an either/or, he won't represent both (and possibly not either).

    Also accused them of being "wrapped in ideology." He once stated that he say no reason for people to carry guns. So given the facts about conceal carry and lowered crime rates, his holding this anti-gun position is being "wrapped in ideology," isn't it?

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    Buy know before the inevitable happens. We're in a lot of trouble with any of the three candidates. McCain might be our best bet, but he's been known to flip-flop on certain issues.

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    Placementvs.Calibur wrote:
    Buy know before the inevitable happens. We're in a lot of trouble with any of the three candidates. McCain might be our best bet, but he's been known to flip-flop on certain issues.
    Not to mention I really don't want this guy's finger on the button.



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    Needs more fiber in his diet.

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    Buy NOW, not know, well you know.

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    This might sound terrible to some people, but if Hillary or Obama are selected, there will probably be a conservative running in 4 years. If McCain gets in, we are guaranteed to have two liberals from which to choose from. I am not saying that I am definately going to throw the lever for the Democrat, but either way, I will be holding my nose.

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    My biggest fear is that the next pres will likely select two SC judges....and they stay for life!!!!

    That is the main reason I can't stomach a left wing win!

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    That's okay. I don't like Obama anyway.

    Best thing I heard on TV this weekend was (paraphrased).

    "An Obama + Clinton ticket would definitely unify the Republican party."

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    72Malibu wrote:
    That's okay.* I don't like Obama anyway.

    Best thing I heard on TV this weekend was (paraphrased).

    "An Obama + Clinton ticket would definitely unify the Republican party."*
    Unify the Republican party behind what? No gun show, no free speech McCain?

    Although Ric in Richmond has a great point about the judges.

    If Obama gets the nomination, I wouldn't be surprised to see him appoint Bloomberg.

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    Placementvs.Calibur wrote:
    Needs more fiber in his diet.
    Or maybe he had too many beans last night

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    Doug Huffman wrote:
    Guns and religion are realizations of American Values that B. Hussein Obama rejejcts in favor of Islam and OWG. His ideas will not survive.
    Would you mind pointing out where Mr. Obama has stated that he is in favor of Islam? I can't say that I agree with all of his politics, but this fearmongering crap trying to convince people the man is a terrroist is wearing a bit thin. Yes, his middle name is Hussein. That means absolutly jack squat.

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    kf4uel wrote:
    And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
    Wow.

    Very interesting comment.. So we have an antipathy to anyone who is not like us? If one chooses not be believe in God and chooses to not carry or own firearms, I do not dislike them even though I may disagree with those decisions. As long as someone doesn't attempt to restrict or eliminate my right to choose differently, there will be no problem. Gun grabbers like Obama will obviously never understand where our frustrations derive. We don't "explain our frustrations" by clinging to various negative sentiments, at least I don't. We are frustrated because the constitution is in jeopardy if the likes of him are ever elected into office.

    Any commentary from him trying to define the religious groupsor thegun culture is a purposely failed attempt to understand the true meaning of our roots and ourhistory. My belief in God and my belief in my constitutional heritage to carry and own firearms has absolutely nothing to do with any job I have had or any specificeconomic status me or my family has ever had. It is merley principledupbringing,an understanding of the constitution, a sporting heritage,a duty to protect myself, my family, my state, and my country,a concern about the history of disarmament in the 20th century, and a further concernthat a hurricane katrina confiscationmay happen at any time with anObama at the helm and that potential aftermath that would ensue.

    I justhope Ilive long enough to see a president that actually abides by their oath of office and preserves and protects the constitution instead of trying to find various ways to violate it.
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    Well, I guess I'll have to cancel that hunting trip with mypreacher.

    Don't wanta be seen as clingin' to religion an' guns.

    I wonder if he'll lemme keep my Redman? Hell, I guess I could always switch to Beechnut.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    hsmith wrote:
    It is becoming even more clear he is a tolalitarian and a closet racist.

    Since no one knows anything about him, he has a small voting record, he will make GWB look like Mother Teresa.

    He's not in a closet. He just has better diction than Louis Farrakhan. Not to worry though, Hillary is one of the Good old.........Boys?

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    I live in a small town and I am getting bitter. I am bitter that new laws went into effect last January over regulating my industry to the point that I just want to sell my business. I am bitter that I have to pay thousands of dollars to an accountant because the seizure of my business assets for taxes is so complicated that payment is insult added to injury. I am bitter that nearly half of everything I make I have to give to the government one way or another for the privelege of working 60 hours a week, and employing several fellow Americans, providing them a fair salary, good health care and benefits. The harder I work the more I am punished by various levels of gov't. If the gov't would leave me the hell alone I wouldn't have anything to be bitter about.
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    deepdiver wrote:
    I live in a small town and I am getting bitter. I am bitter that new laws went into effect last January over regulating my industry to the point that I just want to sell my business. I am bitter that I have to pay thousands of dollars to an accountant because the seizure of my business assets for taxes is so complicated that payment is insult added to injury. I am bitter that nearly half of everything I make I have to give to the government one way or another for the privelege of working 60 hours a week, and employing several fellow Americans, providing them a fair salary, good health care and benefits. The harder I work the more I am punished by various levels of gov't. If the gov't would leave me the hell alone I wouldn't have anything to be bitter about.
    This, ir, is the untold dirty story of why so many businesses go offshore. You'll NEVER hear any politician admit that they tax our employers right out of America and into the arms of more welcoming countries. My brother owns his own business (a large auto repair shop), employs about 12 guys, and shares your concerns.

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    Glock27Bill wrote:
    deepdiver wrote:
    I live in a small town and I am getting bitter. I am bitter that new laws went into effect last January over regulating my industry to the point that I just want to sell my business. I am bitter that I have to pay thousands of dollars to an accountant because the seizure of my business assets for taxes is so complicated that payment is insult added to injury. I am bitter that nearly half of everything I make I have to give to the government one way or another for the privelege of working 60 hours a week, and employing several fellow Americans, providing them a fair salary, good health care and benefits. The harder I work the more I am punished by various levels of gov't. If the gov't would leave me the hell alone I wouldn't have anything to be bitter about.
    This, ir, is the untold dirty story of why so many businesses go offshore. You'll NEVER hear any politician admit that they tax our employers right out of America and into the arms of more welcoming countries. My brother owns his own business (a large auto repair shop), employs about 12 guys, and shares your concerns.
    You can add me to that list!! I also own a business and find it very frustrating with how much the government sticks their fingers in the eyes of small businessmen. The tax system is a freaking mess.

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    Neplusultra wrote:
    Glock27Bill wrote:
    deepdiver wrote:
    I live in a small town and I am getting bitter. I am bitter that new laws went into effect last January over regulating my industry to the point that I just want to sell my business. I am bitter that I have to pay thousands of dollars to an accountant because the seizure of my business assets for taxes is so complicated that payment is insult added to injury. I am bitter that nearly half of everything I make I have to give to the government one way or another for the privelege of working 60 hours a week, and employing several fellow Americans, providing them a fair salary, good health care and benefits. The harder I work the more I am punished by various levels of gov't. If the gov't would leave me the hell alone I wouldn't have anything to be bitter about.
    This, ir, is the untold dirty story of why so many businesses go offshore. You'll NEVER hear any politician admit that they tax our employers right out of America and into the arms of more welcoming countries. My brother owns his own business (a large auto repair shop), employs about 12 guys, and shares your concerns.
    You can add me to that list!! I also own a business and find it very frustrating with how much the government sticks their fingers in the eyes of small businessmen. The tax system is a freaking mess.

    I spent the first half of my life working for the Government. The last half, self employed.
    I decided to pack it in a year ago.
    I hate to break it to you, but unless we get a handle on gas prices, it's going to get worse, a lot worse.


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