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    I am asking because I am trying to help out a friend of mine. The situation is that the county sherriff issued him a CPL and followed that basically the next day with a letter informing him that he needed to return it immediately due to a prior conviction, which is incorrect. He was charged as a minor for an MIP, but the case was dismissed so he was never convicted. He's a good guy and I want to see him clear this up. I'm furious that this can happen.

    By the way, I just read the post about RCW 9.41.0975 which actually covers the butts of those who issue a CPL to someone who supposedly is uneligable to obtain one. That also is is unjust and extremely infuriating... What can you do.. it's our government...

    So if there is a good lawyer that anyone know's of, I would really appreciate the help.

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    Not sure why. MIP is a gross misdemeanor in Washington state. Even if was on his record I doubt it'd prohibit it from getting a CPL. Infact, I just read the code and only people with felonies or "(f) He or she has an outstanding warrant for his or her arrest from any court of competent jurisdiction for a felony or misdemeanor;"

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    I've got a minor(alaska) and a CPL... i've never recieved any fuss.

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    I'm still shocked they issue MIP's these days. Who hasn't drank under the age of 21? And the fact that it's a gross misdemeanor in this state..!

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    G27 wrote:
    "(f) He or she has an outstanding warrant for his or her arrest from any court of competent jurisdiction for a felony or misdemeanor;"
    So, I guess that warrants issued by morons are looked past?
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    Ok, my bad.. by MIP i meant Minor In Possesion of a firearm. He was in a car with another guy and his dad's pistol was in the car too. I should have elaborated on that earlier...

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    This guy is out of Kittitas Country but he is good.

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    zakst1 wrote:
    Ok, my bad.. by MIP i meant Minor In Possesion of a firearm. He was in a car with another guy and his dad's pistol was in the car too. I should have elaborated on that earlier...
    If it was dismissed didn't he get some kind of paperwork for it? was it explained that this charge was the reason? would taking in the paperwork and explaining the charge was dismissed do anything?

    also, isn't there a time limit of a year or so for carrying illegally interupting getting a permit? maybe just wait it out rather than hire a lawyer...

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    Ok, my bad.. by MIP i meant Minor In Possesion of a firearm. He was in a car with another guy and his dad's pistol was in the car too. I should have elaborated on that earlier...
    If it was dismissed didn't he get some kind of paperwork for it? was it explained that this charge was the reason? would taking in the paperwork and explaining the charge was dismissed do anything?

    also, isn't there a time limit of a year or so for carrying illegally interupting getting a permit? maybe just wait it out rather than hire a lawyer...
    That's what I would have thought. He told me that he does have a legal court document stating "Case Dismissed". Not "Guilty". He told me that after speaking to a lawyer last Friday, who I think is a retard, the lawyer told him that "Case dismissed" is a finding of guilt, which doesn't make any sense.. The prosecuter made a deal with him that if "he was a good boy and goes to school every day for the next year and stays out of trouble, then this whole thing would just go away and they would drop charges" which is what happened. She also told him that she won't even look at his case until he starts paying her $175 an hour. After hearing that, I want to do everything that I can to help him resolve this because this is a flaming injustice. He made a stupid mistake when he was a kid. He is now married, a father, a home owner and holds his second gov't job. He is responsible and there is no reason that I can understand why he should be raped of his God given right.

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    In regard to The Stranger article, I'd love to know what the reality might possibly have been behind this completely-mangled statement:

    Then King County sent him a notice that his gun permits were being revoked. Smith reluctantly but dutifully sold his guns.

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    zakst1 wrote:
    uncoolperson wrote:
    zakst1 wrote:
    Ok, my bad.. by MIP i meant Minor In Possesion of a firearm. He was in a car with another guy and his dad's pistol was in the car too. I should have elaborated on that earlier...
    If it was dismissed didn't he get some kind of paperwork for it? was it explained that this charge was the reason? would taking in the paperwork and explaining the charge was dismissed do anything?

    also, isn't there a time limit of a year or so for carrying illegally interupting getting a permit? maybe just wait it out rather than hire a lawyer...
    That's what I would have thought. He told me that he does have a legal court document stating "Case Dismissed". Not "Guilty". He told me that after speaking to a lawyer last Friday, who I think is a retard, the lawyer told him that "Case dismissed" is a finding of guilt, which doesn't make any sense.. The prosecuter made a deal with him that if "he was a good boy and goes to school every day for the next year and stays out of trouble, then this whole thing would just go away and they would drop charges" which is what happened. She also told him that she won't even look at his case until he starts paying her $175 an hour. After hearing that, I want to do everything that I can to help him resolve this because this is a flaming injustice. He made a stupid mistake when he was a kid. He is now married, a father, a home owner and holds his second gov't job. He is responsible and there is no reason that I can understand why he should be raped of his God given right.
    So it wasn't really a dismissed case but a deferred sentence. The prosecutor at the time may have screwed up and not petitioned the court to fully dismiss the charges and it is showing up on his record.
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    kparker wrote:
    In regard to The Stranger article, I'd love to know what the reality might possibly have been behind this completely-mangled statement:

    Then King County sent him a notice that his gun permits were being revoked. Smith reluctantly but dutifully sold his guns.
    That's a good question, since you don't need a permit to own a gun in Washington... unless he had a felony conviction that made it illegal to own guns, which is, in itself, a crime if he did have guns.
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    joeroket wrote:
    zakst1 wrote:
    uncoolperson wrote:
    zakst1 wrote:
    Ok, my bad.. by MIP i meant Minor In Possesion of a firearm. He was in a car with another guy and his dad's pistol was in the car too. I should have elaborated on that earlier...
    If it was dismissed didn't he get some kind of paperwork for it? was it explained that this charge was the reason? would taking in the paperwork and explaining the charge was dismissed do anything?

    also, isn't there a time limit of a year or so for carrying illegally interupting getting a permit? maybe just wait it out rather than hire a lawyer...
    That's what I would have thought. He told me that he does have a legal court document stating "Case Dismissed". Not "Guilty". He told me that after speaking to a lawyer last Friday, who I think is a retard, the lawyer told him that "Case dismissed" is a finding of guilt, which doesn't make any sense.. The prosecuter made a deal with him that if "he was a good boy and goes to school every day for the next year and stays out of trouble, then this whole thing would just go away and they would drop charges" which is what happened. She also told him that she won't even look at his case until he starts paying her $175 an hour. After hearing that, I want to do everything that I can to help him resolve this because this is a flaming injustice. He made a stupid mistake when he was a kid. He is now married, a father, a home owner and holds his second gov't job. He is responsible and there is no reason that I can understand why he should be raped of his God given right.
    So it wasn't really a dismissed case but a deferred sentence. The prosecutor at the time may have screwed up and not petitioned the court to fully dismiss the charges and it is showing up on his record.
    That's my take on it. Sentence deferred, not dropped.

    As for the fees.... it sounds like he got a free consult out of it.

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    zakst1, have you contacted the guy that sv_libertarian set to you? He's you man, lives and works out ofKitsapCountyand knows the law and how to solve problems. On top ov that, he is a gun guy.

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    zakst1 wrote:
    holds his second gov't job.
    Makes one wonder why those in charge of "vetting" him for his two government jobs didn't find this in his record.
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    amlevin wrote:
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    holds his second gov't job.
    Makes one wonder why those in charge of "vetting" him for his two government jobs didn't find this in his record.
    It may not have been considered disqualifying for the jobif in fact it is on his record as a conviction.
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    Bear 45/70 wrote:
    zakst1, have you contacted the guy that sv_libertarian set to you? He's you man, lives and works out ofKitsapCountyand knows the law and how to solve problems. On top ov that, he is a gun guy.
    Yes, he has contacted him and it sounds as though the guy SV told me about has more interest in the situation then the previous lawyer that my friend spoke with.

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    joeroket wrote:
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    holds his second gov't job.
    Makes one wonder why those in charge of "vetting" him for his two government jobs didn't find this in his record.
    It may not have been considered disqualifying for the jobif in fact it is on his record as a conviction.
    He told me that the FBI personnally went to his home and questioned him on this specific case while in the process of getting his clearance.

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    zakst1 wrote:
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    holds his second gov't job.
    Makes one wonder why those in charge of "vetting" him for his two government jobs didn't find this in his record.
    It may not have been considered disqualifying for the jobif in fact it is on his record as a conviction.
    He told me that the FBI personnally went to his home and questioned him on this specific case while in the process of getting his clearance.
    Which tells me that he probably showed them the court papers and they did thier job correctly. Niether here nor there right now though. Hopefully the lawyer he is talking with now will get it straightened out so he can get his CPL.
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    nathan wrote:
    This guy is out of Kittitas Country but he is good.

    http://www.washrecord.com/
    There is some good reading here on how to get records sealed, destroyed and when it is good or bad to do. Your Buddy needs to comply with the sheriffs request. Then I would try to go see the county prosecutor because if he completed his diversion if assigned or if it was dismissed he needs to make sure it was done correctly administratively. Also, if he hasn't taken back the CPL yet he should try to get the sheriffs office to hold it while he straightens this out or they will charge him another $55.

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    zakst1 wrote:
    I am asking because I am trying to help out a friend of mine. The situation is that the county sherriff issued him a CPL and followed that basically the next day with a letter informing him that he needed to return it immediately due to a prior conviction, which is incorrect. He was charged as a minor for an MIP
    MIP?

    I would hate to start throwing penalty flags for using acronyms without first spelling out the words

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    Mike wrote:
    zakst1 wrote:
    I am asking because I am trying to help out a friend of mine. The situation is that the county sherriff issued him a CPL and followed that basically the next day with a letter informing him that he needed to return it immediately due to a prior conviction, which is incorrect. He was charged as a minor for an MIP
    MIP?

    I would hate to start throwing penalty flags for using acronyms without first spelling out the words
    Okay Mike, I'll just throw the flag on you for not reading page one where he clarified what he meant. :P
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    zakst1 wrote:
    Bear 45/70 wrote:
    zakst1, have you contacted the guy that sv_libertarian set to you? He's you man, lives and works out ofKitsapCountyand knows the law and how to solve problems. On top ov that, he is a gun guy.
    Yes, he has contacted him and it sounds as though the guy SV told me about has more interest in the situation then the previous lawyer that my friend spoke with.
    Randy is a great guy and a gentleman. And very powerful with words. I'm sure he can help your friend out.

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