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    SHEBOYGAN — A police officer responding to a report Thursday of a suicidal man with a gun fatally wounded the man as he pointed the weapon at the officer, authorities said.

    Police Chief David Kirk said a woman called the 911 emergency number just after 10 a.m. and said her father had left the house with a gun and could be contemplating suicide. She said her father was in a vehicle and about to drive away.

    Two officers arrived and saw the man drive to the rear of the home, stop the vehicle, go in the garage and display a long-barreled gun. When he refused to drop the gun and pointed it at an officer, he was shot by the officer, the chief said.

    Police identified the man as Alan D. Gee, 47, and said they recovered a .22 caliber rifle that belonged to a family member and had four bullets in it and the safety off.

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    A 47-year-old man described by his daughter as suicidal was shot and killed Thursday after aiming a loaded rifle at a Sheboygan police officer, police said.

    Alan Gee, of 620 National Ave., was shot by a 12-year veteran of the Sheboygan Police Department, police said. The shooting occurred about 10:10 a.m. on Gee's north-side property as officers responded to his daughter's 911 call.

    "I think my dad's going to commit suicide in the garage," the daughter, who is in her early 20s, told a 911 dispatcher. "He said, 'You were right, you guys don't need me anymore.'"

    The woman stayed on the phone as Gee took a gun to his garage, climbed into his truck and drove around the block. As two officers approached the property, Gee parked in the alley, walked into his garage and picked up a .22-caliber rifle, said Chief David Kirk.

    Gee, standing in the garage, aimed the weapon at a 35-year-old officer, who was standing about 25 feet away just outside the garage. When Gee ignored commands to lower the weapon, the officer fired a single shot from his department-issue AR-15 assault rifle, striking Gee in the head.

    Kirk said Gee left the officer no choice.

    "I have no concerns. I don't think that this is complicated," the chief said. "I feel that the officer acted with the proper police procedures in this matter. To be confronted by a man who has a rifle pointed at you — it's a dangerous job."

    Gee was taken to Aurora Sheboygan Memorial Medical Center and later transferred by helicopter to Froedtert Memorial Lutheran Hospital in Wauwatosa, where he was pronounced dead shortly after noon, Kirk said. An autopsy is scheduled for today.

    The department has started an investigation into the shooting, which when complete will be forwarded to the District Attorney's Office for review, Kirk said. Police declined to release the officer's name until the report is complete.

    Gina Gotiear-Meyer, 50, who lives across the street from Gee's home, said the news hit her hard Thursday. She returned from work shortly after the shooting.

    "That was my neighbor I had known for 13 years," she said. "I just feel really bad for (his wife) and the kids."

    Gotiear-Meyer said Gee was a quiet man who was unemployed due to a disability. He lived at the home with his wife, father, two daughters and a grandchild.

    "He was pretty quiet; the whole family kind of (kept) to themselves," she said. "I thought he was a good neighbor. … In the summertime, when my son was younger, Al was always working on trucks, and my son always had some raggedy piece of car he was consulting Al about."

    In the hours after the shooting, police cordoned off Gee's home — a green, two-story residence with peeling paint — as well as several adjoining yards. More than a dozen police officers, detectives and supervisors descended on the home.

    Kirk said police do not yet know what led to Gee's actions. The man has no history of suicidal or violent behavior that police are aware of, the chief said.

    "Sometimes things occur that make no sense at the time, and hopefully we can make some sense of this," Kirk said.

    Three weeks ago, police arrested Gee at his home after executing a search warrant, and he was later charged with felony marijuana possession and misdemeanor possession of drug paraphernalia, court records show. His only criminal conviction in Wisconsin was in 1997 on a charge of misdemeanor marijuana possession, records show.

    Kirk said the officer involved in the shooting has been placed on an alternative assignment. The officer went home early Thursday and will meet with a debriefing team that convenes after officers are involved in traumatic events, the chief said.

    "My concern … today was to immediately make sure that this officer's concerns are met, because this is very traumatic to this officer, as well as, of course, the family of this victim," Kirk said. "This is not a great day for us, but at the same time, our officers have to do what is necessary."

    The officer, a member of the department's Emergency Response Team, has not been involved in a shooting before, Kirk said.

    Gee's home is several hundred yards from U.S. Grant Elementary School, which borders the intersection of National and Sixth Street.

    Principal Martha Steinbruecker said the school was alerted to the incident by a neighbor about 20 minutes after the shooting. Students outside for recess were brought in for about 10 minutes until Sheboygan police advised school officials the situation was under control, she said.

    Mark Cartner, 47, who has lived two doors down from Gee for two years, described the incident as unnerving. He was on a bicycle ride when the shooting occurred.

    "It's normally pretty quiet around here. That's why we moved here," Cartner said. "Pretty scary, though, when it comes in your backyard."

    The city's last officer-involved shooting occurred Aug. 8, 2006. Officer Jim Priebe shot and killed 44-year-old Kenneth Brulla as Brulla stabbed his estranged wife, Dawn Brulla, in a garage loft at 934 Swift Ave.

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    This is one of those situations where you have to do something.

    You have a guy refusing to drop the gun. This means he is refusing lawful commands from the police so he is now a threat to the police and the public.



    The Force Continuum

    Deadly Force

    Less Lethal

    Pepper Spray, Baton, Taser

    Empty Hand Control


    Verbal Commands
    Less Force

    Officer Presence
    So they started at the bottom.... Presence and Verbal.

    They cannot go hands on or get close enough for Pepper Spray, Baton, Taser.

    You can use less lethal like bean bags but this is not done against people with firearms.

    Last one on the list... Lethal Force!!

    Seems dumb to shoot a guy that wants to shoot himself, huh?

    But what if he runs and starts shooting other people in the area? You had a chance to stop him and now you cannot make an easy shot with innocent people in the background.



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    LEO 229 wrote:
    This is one of those situations where you have to do something.

    You have a guy refusing to drop the gun. This means he is refusing lawful commands from the police so he is now a threat to the police and the public.



    The Force Continuum

    Deadly Force

    Less Lethal

    Pepper Spray, Baton, Taser

    Empty Hand Control

    Verbal Commands
    Less Force

    Officer Presence
    So they started at the bottom.... Presence and Verbal.

    They cannot go hands on or get close enough for Pepper Spray, Baton, Taser.

    You can use less lethal like bean bags but this is not done against people with firearms.

    Last one on the list... Lethal Force!!

    Seems dumb to shoot a guy that wants to shoot himself, huh?

    But what if he runs and starts shooting other people in the area? You had a chance to stop him and now you cannot make an easy shot with innocent people in the background.

    Should the officer be charged with assisted suicide?

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    Suicide by cop.

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    Snipped from: http://www.620wtmj.com/news/local/18332224.html

    Sheboygan County prosecutor District Attorney Joe DeCecco has cleared the police officer involved in a fatal shooting, saying the officer rightfully feared for his life when victim Alan Gee of Sheboygan pointed a gun at him, and the officer's use of force was justifiable. Huibregtse is an 11-year veteran of the police force.

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