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    Well, here is the link and the details read like something out of Fallujah or Baghdad. So much for the success of gun control laws! :shock:

    http://cbs2chicago.com/local/chicago....2.704117.html



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    Clearly they're making it all up. Carrying guns is banned, so clearly it's false reporting. Not to mention the stabbings. Don't those journalists know that the only way people die is by being murdered by handguns... and usually their own handguns?


    On a serious note, this is truly sad. But it's what happens when the good citizens are denied the right to keep and bear arms while the criminals' right to do so is protected. It's like what's happening now in Philadelphia... but that's another discussion.

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    These are all lies. Guns aren't allowed in Chicago, so this isn't happening. LIES!!! It can't be true!!!
    So much for "police protection" and "safer streets due to gun laws"...eccch, makes me sick.
    Hey, Obama, care to explain what happened this weekend? Are we feeling good yet?!?!?!


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    Chicago.
    One of the most gun controlled cities in the country.
    How's that workin' out for ya?
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    "If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire... the A-Team."

    Sure, they use guns... but they don't hit anyone, so that should be kosher with the Chicago city officials...


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    Evil Ernie wrote:
    Hey, Obama, care to explain what happened this weekend?

    I guess guns started protesting due to unfair treatment.

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    Come on now, guys. We should all be thankful for the gun cuntrol laws. Without them, our weapons might get pissed and open fire on us as well as other innocents all by themselves!

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    Clearly what is needed is tougher gun control laws and knife laws. How did that criminal gangster get that AK-47? They should just ban everything and do house-to-house sweeps.. :quirky

    [Sarcasm off]

    Seriously, these are tragic events. I am appaled about the home invasion stabbings and the poor old guy that got shot outside his house, in particular.

    What is it going to take for the politicians to realize that gangs and other criminals don't follow laws? Another 100 dead?Disarming the citizenry is going to get them killed. There is no excuse for this...
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    Here is another article from the AP. I put the absurdanti comments in bold.

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    CHICAGO, Illinois (AP)[/b] --

    An epidemic of gunfire rattled the city during the weekend, with at least 32 people shot and six killed.

    Police Superintendent Jody Weis blamed an excess of guns and gangs for the rash of violence.

    "There are just too many weapons here," Weis said at a news conference Sunday. "Too many guns, too many gangs."

    At the time of that news conference, the toll was 26 separate shootings and four deaths. Later, three more shootings were reported within two hours on the West Side late Sunday and early Monday, resulting in two more deaths and four more people wounded, police said.

    The other weekend shootings were scattered all over the city. Police said they included gang shootings, drive-by attacks, and even one case in which someone used an AK-47 to shoot up a plumbing supply store.

    Authorities did not immediately say whether any of the shootings were thought to be related.

    During the same weekend last year, there were 19 shootings, including four homicides, and 21 shootings were reported during the same weekend in 2006, Chicago police statistics show.

    On Saturday, the Police Department issued new statistics showing that the city's murder rate for March was down about 1 percent from March 2007.
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    ....And guess what happened in my town in Texas?

    Police: Father, Son Shoot, Kill Relative's AttackerPOSTED: 4:29 pm CDT April 18, 2008UPDATED: 4:34 pm CDT April 18, 2008
    When she started screaming, the woman's brother and father grabbed their guns and opened fire, according to police.One of the robbery suspects was shot and killed in the driveway. Two others escaped with a driver in a getaway car parked down the street, officials said.Justin Holt, 25, said he had to shoot to protect his family."They tried to shoot my sister. They kicked in the door and tried to shoot my sister, so I went after them and tried to get them before they did anything to my sister," he said.Holt said his sister was not seriously injured.Police said that because both Holt and his father fired their weapons, it is not yet known who fired the fatal shot.Holt said another one of the suspects may have been shot, as well.

    I wonder if this had anything to do with gun laws....?


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    Flintlock wrote:
    What is it going to take for the politicians to realize that gangs and other criminals don't follow laws? Another 100 dead?Disarming the citizenry is going to get them killed. There is no excuse for this...
    Given the thousands (tens of thousands?) that have already been killed because they couldn't defend themselves, what's another hundred? Or thousand?

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    So out of the 29 shootings, how many again involved a law abiding citizen having an OK Corral type shootout with someone? How many involved a law abiding citizen doing something irresponsible with a firearm? How many involved a law abiding citizen in any role besides "target"?

    I wish I had the clout to drive to Chicago, sit down in a city council meeting with the top law enforcement officials in attendance and a healthy number of media types and calmly explain to them that what they have is a LAW ENFORCEMENT PROBLEM! It is illegal for those criminals to have guns. It is illegal for them to shoot up local businesses. It is illegal for them to perform drive-bys. They had 29 instances where law enforcement and/or the judicial system failed to enforce laws and incarcerate criminals. Doesn't mean LE isn't trying, but they are obviously failing at some level for some reason. Analyzing and eliminating that failure will fix the problem. Another gun law that they will not enforce, that they will not ajudicate, that they will not incarcerate for violating will be as useful as teats on a boar. Dumba$$e$.
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    deepdiver wrote:
    So out of the 29 shootings, how many again involved a law abiding citizen having an OK Corral type shootout with someone? How many involved a law abiding citizen doing something irresponsible with a firearm? How many involved a law abiding citizen in any role besides "target"?

    I wish I had the clout to drive to Chicago, sit down in a city council meeting with the top law enforcement officials in attendance and a healthy number of media types and calmly explain to them that what they have is a LAW ENFORCEMENT PROBLEM! It is illegal for those criminals to have guns. It is illegal for them to shoot up local businesses. It is illegal for them to perform drive-bys. They had 29 instances where law enforcement and/or the judicial system failed to enforce laws and incarcerate criminals. Doesn't mean LE isn't trying, but they are obviously failing at some level for some reason. Analyzing and eliminating that failure will fix the problem. Another gun law that they will not enforce, that they will not ajudicate, that they will not incarcerate for violating will be as useful as teats on a boar. Dumba$$e$.
    Part of the crime problem in Chicago is the Chicago PD. It's too busy committing its own crimes to worry about stopping anybody else's.
    --- Gun control: The theory that 110lb. women have the "right" to fistfight with 210lb. rapists.

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    Deanimator wrote:
    deepdiver wrote:
    So out of the 29 shootings, how many again involved a law abiding citizen having an OK Corral type shootout with someone? How many involved a law abiding citizen doing something irresponsible with a firearm? How many involved a law abiding citizen in any role besides "target"?

    I wish I had the clout to drive to Chicago, sit down in a city council meeting with the top law enforcement officials in attendance and a healthy number of media types and calmly explain to them that what they have is a LAW ENFORCEMENT PROBLEM! It is illegal for those criminals to have guns. It is illegal for them to shoot up local businesses. It is illegal for them to perform drive-bys. They had 29 instances where law enforcement and/or the judicial system failed to enforce laws and incarcerate criminals. Doesn't mean LE isn't trying, but they are obviously failing at some level for some reason. Analyzing and eliminating that failure will fix the problem. Another gun law that they will not enforce, that they will not ajudicate, that they will not incarcerate for violating will be as useful as teats on a boar. Dumba$$e$.
    Part of the crime problem in Chicago is the Chicago PD. It's too busy committing its own crimes to worry about stopping anybody else's.
    +1

    From what I've read, the CPD is the most corrupt police force in existance today. So yes, I'd say that they most certainly do have a failure at the law enforcement level.

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    I just love this line.

    Chicago police are now stepping up patrols in areas that they call "hot zones." Police blame the warmer temperatures for the spike in violence.


    I mean, it's obvious that when it's warmer people are more active.. but blame the weather for more violence?

    Why don't they blame the guns?

    Seriously though, what were these people thinking?

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    Glow-bull warning, it's Bush's

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    I haven't seen the research since criminal psych nearly 20 years ago, but at that time, there was a healthy amount of research that did show a positive correlation between temperature and crime. I only mention that because there is research to back up the PDs assertion to some level. However, I doubt (but I could be wrong) that the weather factor is nearly great enough to account for the bloody weekend.
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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