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Virginia Requirement To Provide ID To Police?
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roscoe13
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Required when operating a motor vehicle or carrying a concealed handgun.
Required when operating a motor vehicle or carrying a concealed handgun.
ProShooter
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The city of Richmond also has an ordinance that requires you to show id to an officer.
The city of Richmond also has an ordinance that requires you to show id to an officer.
bayboy42
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ProShooter wrote:
ProShooter wrote:
Please cite said ordinance. :what:
SouthernBoy
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ProShooter wrote:
Damn I hate to see the Nazi-like behavior by my servants in Virginia.
ProShooter wrote:
How can they do that? What if you are out jogging or walking you dog and don't carry some ID? What are the nutcases going to do about it? Arrest you?? You could give them a bogus name and address since you have no ID. They're nuts.
Damn I hate to see the Nazi-like behavior by my servants in Virginia.
ProShooter
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I'm having some trouble finding it online now but if my memory is correct (and this was a few years ago), they passed an ordinance that required someone to produce id if asked by RPD. I'll keep looking for it.
I'm having some trouble finding it online now but if my memory is correct (and this was a few years ago), they passed an ordinance that required someone to produce id if asked by RPD. I'll keep looking for it.
Citizen
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This should be interesting.
Although not literally true, it would seem they'd first have to pass a law that everyone had to have ID, and then that everyone had to carry ID.
If they left out either of those parts, it could get a little tougher for them.
Of course, if the ordinance only says you have to show it if you've got it, then all an OC'er in Richmond has to do is leave it in the car or at home. Sterile carry.
This should be interesting.
Although not literally true, it would seem they'd first have to pass a law that everyone had to have ID, and then that everyone had to carry ID.
If they left out either of those parts, it could get a little tougher for them.
Of course, if the ordinance only says you have to show it if you've got it, then all an OC'er in Richmond has to do is leave it in the car or at home. Sterile carry.
ProShooter
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still looking.....I know that I'm not going crazy, it was a big issue in the news here at the time. I'm going to email RPD and ask....I'll let you know what they say.
still looking.....I know that I'm not going crazy, it was a big issue in the news here at the time. I'm going to email RPD and ask....I'll let you know what they say.
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They did and then decided it was unenforceable. Then they asked the General Assembly for a mandatory ID law which they didn't get. Every time they get a new Chief, this comes up again.
Richmond has many unenforceable ordnances on the books.
They did and then decided it was unenforceable. Then they asked the General Assembly for a mandatory ID law which they didn't get. Every time they get a new Chief, this comes up again.
Richmond has many unenforceable ordnances on the books.
Thundar
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ProShooter wrote:
ProShooter wrote:
I spent some time on Municode and could find nothing about a stop and Identify law in Richmond.
Citizen
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Thundar wrote:
:idea:Lets call it something else.
Stop-and-Demand-Your-Papers law. Or, Your-Papers-Please-Comrade law. That hits the right emotional button.
Thundar wrote:
:idea:Lets call it something else.
Stop-and-Demand-Your-Papers law. Or, Your-Papers-Please-Comrade law. That hits the right emotional button.
ProShooter
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peter nap wrote:
peter nap wrote:
ok, thank you. I'm glad that I wasnt going nuts. I knew that the law existed at some point.
doug23838
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Thundar wrote:
DITTO. Nothing in municode.
Thundar wrote:
DITTO. Nothing in municode.
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roscoe13 wrote:
Not trying to be a pain, but when would a LEO ask for your concealed carry permit? Your gun is concealed so he/she would not even know that you have a weapon. Also I know you have read throughout all these threads that you are not required to have a permit to carry open...am I right?
roscoe13 wrote:
Rosco13
Not trying to be a pain, but when would a LEO ask for your concealed carry permit? Your gun is concealed so he/she would not even know that you have a weapon. Also I know you have read throughout all these threads that you are not required to have a permit to carry open...am I right?
ProShooter
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When you are drunk at 4am in a Waffle House parking lot and you almost get your ass shot!
Been there, done that.....so glad that I didnt have to pull the trigger.
When you are drunk at 4am in a Waffle House parking lot and you almost get your ass shot!
Been there, done that.....so glad that I didnt have to pull the trigger.
asforme
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PA-Carry wrote:
PA-Carry wrote:
If you bend over or reach for something and someone sees your CCW an LEO can ask for your CHP. I have also heard that police are trained to recognise printing and are much better at spotting a ccw than your average joe. Any LEOs feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, just something I remember reading somewhere.
roscoe13
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PA-Carry wrote:
If you get pulled over in VA, when the LEO runs your license, it'll tell him if you have a CHP, the LEO may then ask about a gun and the permit if you tell him you're carrying...
PA-Carry wrote:
No, no permit required for open carry.
If you get pulled over in VA, when the LEO runs your license, it'll tell him if you have a CHP, the LEO may then ask about a gun and the permit if you tell him you're carrying...
Mike
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-C4- wrote:
The VA AG has opined further that it is not obstruction of justice to refuse to identify yourslef generally to police while being detained even in a valid Terry stop. VA AG Opinion 2002-82, available at http://www.oag.state.va.us/Opinions/2002opns/02-082.pdf.
-C4- wrote:
There is no such statute requiring folks to carry, let alone furnish ID to police, in VA, any of its localities, nor could there lawfully be such a requirement in any state. See Kolender v. Lawson, summary at http://www.oyez.org/cases/1980-1989/1982/1982_81_1320/.
The VA AG has opined further that it is not obstruction of justice to refuse to identify yourslef generally to police while being detained even in a valid Terry stop. VA AG Opinion 2002-82, available at http://www.oag.state.va.us/Opinions/2002opns/02-082.pdf.