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    It's been raining here in Hampton Roads from time to time and I was wondering what the effects of a lighting strike would do to an OC (or CC) firearm.

    Would the heat from the lighting be enough to cause an accidental discharge?

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    danbus wrote:
    It's been raining here in Hampton Roads from time to time and I was wondering what the effects of a lighting strike would do to an OC (or CC) firearm.

    Would the heat from the lighting be enough to cause an accidental discharge?
    :shock:Um, I think if you were struck by lightning, your gun going off is the least of your worries.

    To answer the question, yes, the discharge current going through your gun can arc through a cartridge and set off the primer or the powder. However, your head is your tallest part, and once it gets to your body, unless your gun is touching bare skin or soaking wet clothing, your body is the path of least resistance. Your gun is a side trip, and as such will see substantially less current than you will.

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    danbus wrote:
    It's been raining here in Hampton Roads from time to time and I was wondering what the effects of a lighting strike would do to an OC (or CC) firearm.

    Would the heat from the lighting be enough to cause an accidental discharge?
    Temperature of Surface of Sun =~ 9,900 degrees F
    Temperature of Lightning = ~ 54,000 degrees F

    Lightning is more than 5 times hotter than the surface of the sun.

    I think the heat from the lightning would be enough to effectively melt the entire firearm, not to mention what the electricity going through your body would do. And if it is on your side when hit by lightning, I think an accidental discharge would be the least of your worries.

    I know that when lightning hit the ground about 15 feet from my moving car, I almost had an accidental discharge (bladder).:shock:

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    Decoligny wrote:
    I know that when lightning hit the ground about 15 feet from my moving car, I almost had an accidental discharge (bladder).:shock:
    Last year in Colorado lightning actually hit a moving motorcycle. Blew a good sized chunk out of the concrete too.

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    I'll second that notion that your gun AD'ing is the least of your worries. If more than one round goes off at the same time, the BATFE might go after you for "illegal transfer of a machine gun" and send you off to federal prison for a few years.

    :?

    Now, I wonder what the effect of a gun is in conducting the lightning strike. That is, will a 4.5lb chunk of metal make me a target that I otherwise would not be? Ya know, like golf shoes supposedly do? Hah, maybe that's what all the anti-OC people mean when they talk about OC's making people targets...

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    imperialism2024 wrote:
    I'll second that notion that your gun AD'ing is the least of your worries. If more than one round goes off at the same time, the BATFE might go after you for "illegal transfer of a machine gun" and send you off to federal prison for a few years.

    :?

    Now, I wonder what the effect of a gun is in conducting the lightning strike. That is, will a 4.5lb chunk of metal make me a target that I otherwise would not be? Ya know, like golf shoes supposedly do? Hah, maybe that's what all the anti-OC people mean when they talk about OC's making people targets...
    Golf shoes don't make that much of a difference.Being the tallest thingin an open field is the problem.

    Anyway I gotta nominate the originalpostfor one of the most random questions ever asked on this forum lol.

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    Ask Mythbusters! They have access to a place that can produce lightning, it's really cool. I'll bet they would love to strap a fully loaded gun onto their dummy and zap it a few times!

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    Great thread!
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    imperialism2024 wrote:
    Now, I wonder what the effect of a gun is in conducting the lightning strike. That is, will a 4.5lb chunk of metal make me a target that I otherwise would not be?
    4.5 lbs? :shock: What in God's name do you carry, a Smith & Wesson X frame?

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    Euromutt wrote:
    imperialism2024 wrote:
    Now, I wonder what the effect of a gun is in conducting the lightning strike. That is, will a 4.5lb chunk of metal make me a target that I otherwise would not be?
    4.5 lbs? :shock: What in God's name do you carry, a Smith & Wesson X frame?
    Eh, I guess it's closer to 4 lbs. Ruger Redhawk with 7.5" barrel, plus 6 rounds of .44 magnum, plus a few speedloaders... I'll have to weigh it sometime.

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    Liko81 wrote:
    :shock:Um, I think if you were struck by lightning, your gun going off is the least of your worries.

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    Going to agree.... I would not be too worried about the discharge from the gun but rather the discharge of my life force from the zap!!

    But I recall a study being done and you need a spark and not heat from electricity to get the round to go off.

    They did a study on a .22 being used as a fuse in a urban legend show. It failed to explode.

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    Decoligny wrote:
    I know that when lightning hit the ground about 15 feet from my moving car, I almost had an accidental discharge (bladder).:shock:
    I know the feeling - last year lightening struck a tree about 15 feet in front of my truck. The coolest scary thing out there!

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    LEO 229 wrote:
    Liko81 wrote:
    :shock:Um, I think if you were struck by lightning, your gun going off is the least of your worries.

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    Going to agree.... I would not be too worried about the discharge from the gun but rather the discharge of my life force from the zap!!

    But I recall a study being done and you need a spark and not heat from electricity to get the round to go off.

    They did a study on a .22 being used as a fuse in a urban legend show. It failed to explode.
    I do remember seeing this. I wonder though, with the sheer heat, if that would ignite it though. 54,000 (F) degrees is enough to melt just about anything... I guess it would be good to put that on the show...

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    Caution: This post contains humorous, slightly off-topic material.

    To avoid the lightning strike in the first place, recall the advice given by golfing great Lee Trevino, whohad been the victim of a lightning strike previous to his answer to reporter's question on the subject. He was asked what he would do if he was stuck out on the course with no shelter to run to, with a thunderstorm imminent. He said something to the effect of: "Well, I'd just hold up a 1-iron. Even God can't hit a 1-iron."

    So, maybe those should become part of our carry gear in foul weather.

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    LEO 229 wrote:
    They did a study on a .22 being used as a fuse in a urban legend show. It failed to explode.
    I remember seeing that exact thing on Mythbusters. They showed it actually firing each and every time in their white pickup they used. Weird! :?

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    In the fall, lightning hit less that a block from my friends and I in a glass bus stop. Yea I jumped pretty darn high!!!! As soon as I saw the flash of light the pulse ran through me. There was no delay from light to sound. That is when it is scary!!!:what:

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