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Eric Thompson to speak at VT
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DoubleR
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Seller of gun used in Va. Tech shootings due on campus
Apr 24, 11:46 AM EDT
BLACKSBURG, Va. (AP) -- A planned visit by an online weapons dealer who sold one of two guns used in the Virginia Tech mass shootings stirred controversy on campus Thursday. Eric Thompson was to speak at the school Thursday night as part of a weeklong demonstration in favor of concealed weapons on college campuses.
Ken Stanton, president of the university's chapter of Students for Concealed Carry on Campus, said the visit had not prompted objections until a school spokesman denounced it. He had received a number of complaints after Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker issued a statement saying he found it "terribly offensive" that Thompson would set foot on campus. "The organizers appear to be incredibly insensitive to the families of the victims who lost loved ones and to the injured students still recovering from this horrendous tragedy," Hincker said.
Virginia Tech last week marked the first anniversary of the shootings in a dormitory and classroom building in which 33 died, including shooter Seung-Hui Cho.
Stanton said Thompson's connection to the shootings was random. Cho bought a Walther .22-caliber handgun through Thompson's Internet gun store based in Green Bay, Wis. The store also sold handgun accessories to the man who killed five Northern Illinois University students in February.
Stanton said he had never considered carrying a gun until the shootings at Virginia Tech, in which his friend Jeremy Herbstritt died. "I'm just someone who's seen firsthand the importance of self-protection," said Stanton, a graduate student.
Members of the student group, which claims a nationwide membership of 25,000 and 200 at Virginia Tech, are wearing empty holsters to classes this week to protest laws and policies that restrict concealed weapons on campuses.
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Comment: Larry Hincker might want to bury his head where the sun doesn't shine, but it won't help anyone. Eric Thompson affords the opportunity for people to defend themselves against those who commit murder, rape, and other acts of violence. Instead of hand-wringers whining tiresome moronic questions of "why can't we all get along" and "could we have offered more counseling to prevent this" the question we all should be asking is, "Why don't we allow students to defend themselves?"
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/SOU_VIRGINIA_TECH_WEAPONS_VAOL-?SITE=VANOV&SECTION=STATE&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
Seller of gun used in Va. Tech shootings due on campus
Apr 24, 11:46 AM EDT
BLACKSBURG, Va. (AP) -- A planned visit by an online weapons dealer who sold one of two guns used in the Virginia Tech mass shootings stirred controversy on campus Thursday. Eric Thompson was to speak at the school Thursday night as part of a weeklong demonstration in favor of concealed weapons on college campuses.
Ken Stanton, president of the university's chapter of Students for Concealed Carry on Campus, said the visit had not prompted objections until a school spokesman denounced it. He had received a number of complaints after Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker issued a statement saying he found it "terribly offensive" that Thompson would set foot on campus. "The organizers appear to be incredibly insensitive to the families of the victims who lost loved ones and to the injured students still recovering from this horrendous tragedy," Hincker said.
Virginia Tech last week marked the first anniversary of the shootings in a dormitory and classroom building in which 33 died, including shooter Seung-Hui Cho.
Stanton said Thompson's connection to the shootings was random. Cho bought a Walther .22-caliber handgun through Thompson's Internet gun store based in Green Bay, Wis. The store also sold handgun accessories to the man who killed five Northern Illinois University students in February.
Stanton said he had never considered carrying a gun until the shootings at Virginia Tech, in which his friend Jeremy Herbstritt died. "I'm just someone who's seen firsthand the importance of self-protection," said Stanton, a graduate student.
Members of the student group, which claims a nationwide membership of 25,000 and 200 at Virginia Tech, are wearing empty holsters to classes this week to protest laws and policies that restrict concealed weapons on campuses.
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Comment: Larry Hincker might want to bury his head where the sun doesn't shine, but it won't help anyone. Eric Thompson affords the opportunity for people to defend themselves against those who commit murder, rape, and other acts of violence. Instead of hand-wringers whining tiresome moronic questions of "why can't we all get along" and "could we have offered more counseling to prevent this" the question we all should be asking is, "Why don't we allow students to defend themselves?"
mpg9999
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I just got back from the speach and dinner with Eric and the other SCCC at VT officers. I thought the speach went very well. There werent a ton of people, I'd sayaround 50 including media and police. There was one girl with a shirt that said "Guns Kill" and "Protest Easy Guns" on the back. We actually had a very nice and long conversation with her and another women who was against handguns after the speach. I don't think we changed their minds about it, but it was a very respectful conversation and I hope we at least got them thinking. I have a video of the entire speach and most of the Q and A. It's about an hour long. I'll have to figure out some way to host it if anyone is interested.
I just got back from the speach and dinner with Eric and the other SCCC at VT officers. I thought the speach went very well. There werent a ton of people, I'd sayaround 50 including media and police. There was one girl with a shirt that said "Guns Kill" and "Protest Easy Guns" on the back. We actually had a very nice and long conversation with her and another women who was against handguns after the speach. I don't think we changed their minds about it, but it was a very respectful conversation and I hope we at least got them thinking. I have a video of the entire speach and most of the Q and A. It's about an hour long. I'll have to figure out some way to host it if anyone is interested.
mpg9999
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Flintlock
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It's mind boggling to me that the university officials hold that gentleman responsible for "providing" the weapons used during the shooting. It's against school policy to keep weapons off campus. Why didn't that work? Ummm, because criminals don't follow rules or laws, maybe...?
What does it matter how he got them?Cho didn't get his Glock from that guy..
Anybody that is hell-bent on destruction will not be stopped unless they are met with equalizing firepower. The students are currently potential unarmed victims and nothing that has been done since that horrible daywould ever stop something like that from happening again.
It's mind boggling to me that the university officials hold that gentleman responsible for "providing" the weapons used during the shooting. It's against school policy to keep weapons off campus. Why didn't that work? Ummm, because criminals don't follow rules or laws, maybe...?
What does it matter how he got them?Cho didn't get his Glock from that guy..
Anybody that is hell-bent on destruction will not be stopped unless they are met with equalizing firepower. The students are currently potential unarmed victims and nothing that has been done since that horrible daywould ever stop something like that from happening again.
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Why don't we go after the car dealerships who sell cars later used in DUI hit and runs? It is no different. Putting the blame on the dealer like he contributed to the shooting. What a bunch of idiots. I guess since they can't blame Cho (you know the wackjob who actually commits the crime is never at fault in their minds) they have to place the blame on someone (or something) else.
Why don't we go after the car dealerships who sell cars later used in DUI hit and runs? It is no different. Putting the blame on the dealer like he contributed to the shooting. What a bunch of idiots. I guess since they can't blame Cho (you know the wackjob who actually commits the crime is never at fault in their minds) they have to place the blame on someone (or something) else.
Mike
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More stories:
http://tinyurl.com/4h2os5 - AP story
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1314031,00.html?f=rss- Sky news coverage
More stories:
http://tinyurl.com/4h2os5 - AP story
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1314031,00.html?f=rss- Sky news coverage
vt357
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mpg9999 wrote:
mpg9999 wrote:
My response to the editorials board's disgusting commentary. I wonder if they will print it on Tuesday (I won't count on it). Last years editorial board used to print my letters somewhat frequently - this one, not so much.
vt357
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The story actually made the front page of CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/25/vatech.guns/index.html
The story actually made the front page of CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/25/vatech.guns/index.html
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Pointman wrote:
They sure are allowing a lot of comments that are against freedom through there.
Also, I read this in the article:
"Additionally, the organizers appear to be incredibly insensitive to the families of the victims who lost loved ones and to the injured students still recovering from this horrendous tragedy."
In my opinion, having 32 people dressed in black, reenacting the victims' deaths, is a hell of a lot more insensitive to the familys of the victims.
Pointman wrote:
They sure are allowing a lot of comments that are against freedom through there.
Also, I read this in the article:
"Additionally, the organizers appear to be incredibly insensitive to the families of the victims who lost loved ones and to the injured students still recovering from this horrendous tragedy."
In my opinion, having 32 people dressed in black, reenacting the victims' deaths, is a hell of a lot more insensitive to the familys of the victims.