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    I am becoming very interested in building a new rifle. Actually I want to build a new upper for my AR in .300 Whisper.

    I think I would like a 16" barrel with an integral supressor, so I know I will be looking at a tax stamp.

    So.....does anybody have a recommendation for the machine work? I have never had a integrally supressed rifle, but I understand the supressor needs to be permanently mounted to the barrel.

    I would appreciate any thoughts or comments. This project is in a direction that is unfimiliar to me.

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    Did you see the article on the .300 whisper in this months "American Rifleman" magazine?

    According to the article, this company makes .300 whisper uppers for AR-15's:
    http://www.sskindustries.com/ar15.htm

    IIRC, Washington law / AG decision says you can own a suppressor, but not use it... don't know if this applies to an integral suppressor or just add-ons. Maybe one of the more legal-fluent members can clarify.

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    spike89 wrote:
    Did you see the article on the .300 whisper in this months "American Rifleman" magazine?

    According to the article, this company makes .300 whisper uppers for AR-15's:
    http://www.sskindustries.com/ar15.htm

    IIRC, Washington law / AG decision says you can own a suppressor, but not use it... don't know if this applies to an integral suppressor or just add-ons. Maybe one of the more legal-fluent members can clarify.
    Already called them, they don't make the integrally suppressed for the AR.
    Still not sure on the law either. I believe if it is integral, it is ok to shoot.
    Was at a dealer who is getting AR's integrally suppressed in 9mm custom made, which led me to think about the whisper.

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    Hope you plan to roll your own, I believe Corbon is the only company offering factory ammo.

    I have shot several and do like the caliber but the idea of not been able to get ammo locally stopped me from pursuing.

    Info and hear a suppressedAR in .300whisper.

    http://www.larrywillis.com/300Whisper.html
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    The way the law reads it is not discriminatory between an internal or external suppressor.

    "who shall use any contrivance or device for suppressing the noise of any firearm, shall be guilty of a gross misdemeanor."
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

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    joeroket wrote:
    The way the law reads it is not discriminatory between an internal or external suppressor.

    "who shall use any contrivance or device for suppressing the noise of any firearm, shall be guilty of a gross misdemeanor."
    ...and yet, Agent 47 makes a good argument that he believes that law is only for non-registered sound suppressors.

    If I remember correctly, his argument went along the lines of 'law enforcement officers and military personel use them, but the law has no exception for either. Therefore, either it's legal to use a registered sound suppressor, or there's a whole lot of LEO's and military that need to be prosecuted for a gross misdemeanor.'

    Honestly, I kind of agree with him, but I sure as heck don't want to be the test case for it.
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    just_a_car wrote:
    joeroket wrote:
    The way the law reads it is not discriminatory between an internal or external suppressor.

    "who shall use any contrivance or device for suppressing the noise of any firearm, shall be guilty of a gross misdemeanor."
    ...and yet, Agent 47 makes a good argument that he believes that law is only for non-registered sound suppressors.

    If I remember correctly, his argument went along the lines of 'law enforcement officers and military personel use them, but the law has no exception for either. Therefore, either it's legal to use a registered sound suppressor, or there's a whole lot of LEO's and military that need to be prosecuted for a gross misdemeanor.'

    Honestly, I kind of agree with him, but I sure as heck don't want to be the test case for it.
    well he is correct that there is no exeption for LEO but I would imagine there is for military somewhere buried in law. There is no argument, with the way the wording of the law in Wa. is, that is a good argument saying that the law applies to non-registered suppressors. The law is very straight forward and says "any contrivance or device". To me that is very cut and dry.
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

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    just_a_car wrote:
    joeroket wrote:
    The way the law reads it is not discriminatory between an internal or external suppressor.

    "who shall use any contrivance or device for suppressing the noise of any firearm, shall be guilty of a gross misdemeanor."
    ...and yet, Agent 47 makes a good argument that he believes that law is only for non-registered sound suppressors.

    If I remember correctly, his argument went along the lines of 'law enforcement officers and military personel use them, but the law has no exception for either. Therefore, either it's legal to use a registered sound suppressor, or there's a whole lot of LEO's and military that need to be prosecuted for a gross misdemeanor.'

    Honestly, I kind of agree with him, but I sure as heck don't want to be the test case for it.
    Agreed. HOWEVER, if the firearm is purchased and properly transferred, (taxed), with a permenantly affixed (integral) suppressor, how would that be using "any contrivance or device for supressing the noise of a firearm", when it is PART OF the firearm as a whole?


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    Maybe we should start contacting our representatives to attempt to Amend the RCW to read this instead:

    (3) Uses any contrivance or device for suppressing the noise of any
    firearm unless the suppressor is legally possessed in
    accordance with federal law

    Senator Hargrove attempted to change it in 2006.

    Anybody in his district, if he is still in office? Or Pam Roach would be a good contact for this also.


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    Well, I am still going to continue with this project. Might do a .338 Whisper though instead. not sure yet. I live close enough to Idaho that when i want to shoot it I wont have to go too far.

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    A great site to learn a lot on subsonic rounds in .30-caliber is this: VC HomePage

    I know it's geared towards 7.62x39, but the material is all worth reading for general subsonic rifle creation.
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    I know a guy in Montana that builds guns, and built himself a 300 Whisper on a Savage platform. And because it is Montana he has a can for it.

    I have gone out with him a few times, once with the Whisper. It is a very neat round. Accurate, yet very quiet.

    You could always give him a call and see what he recommends. I am sure he would be glad to answer any questions you have. Here is his contact info from Midway.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/gunsmithloc...;codeID=151551

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    joeroket wrote:
    The way the law reads it is not discriminatory between an internal or external suppressor.

    "who shall use any contrivance or device for suppressing the noise of any firearm, shall be guilty of a gross misdemeanor."
    In a tiwsted sort of way, that would make ear protection illegal as well:celebrate:celebrate

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    Trigger Dr wrote:
    joeroket wrote:
    The way the law reads it is not discriminatory between an internal or external suppressor.

    "who shall use any contrivance or device for suppressing the noise of any firearm, shall be guilty of a gross misdemeanor."
    In a tiwsted sort of way, that would make ear protection illegal as well:celebrate:celebrate
    Very true huh?

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