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    http://www.washingtontimes.com/artic...817853081/1004

    When is a gang not a gang? When it's based in the District.

    D.C. officials insist on describing groups of young males as "crews," rather than gangs, even when they are held responsible for violent acts such as the wave of killings in the city last weekend. But police officials in other cities say the distinction is counterproductive.

    "The very first step in dealing with gangs is denial," said Capt. Charles Bloom of the Philadelphia Police Department. "Then you get to the point that you can't deny it any more."

    D.C. police, lawmakers and community activists say the groups are not gangs because their members are mostly teens who band together for personal protection. That, they say, distinguished them from conventional gangs, which are created for a criminal enterprise such as drug dealing.

    Capt. Bloom said Philadelphia quit trying to make such distinctions two years ago. Although they once described such bands as "loose groups," they now use the term "gang-related" for any group that engages in criminal violence.

    Police Chief Cathy L. Lanier acknowledged this week that crews appear to be connected to some of the 10 homicides in the past two weeks — including four this past weekend. And they are connected to hundreds of shots fired and a dozen shootings late last year in the Columbia Heights neighborhood in Northwest, officials say.

    "There seem to be several street crews that are feuding," said D.C. Council member Phil Mendelson, at-large Democrat, who heads the council's public safety committee. "On the one hand, that means it's not random; but on the other hand, it's an intolerable level of violence."

    Other large U.S. police departments also say they classify such groups as gangs — not crews — if they are engaged in any type of crime.



    "In our law, we don't have crews," said Sgt. Wilfred Williams of the San Francisco Police Department. "We prosecute gangs, not crews."

    Chicago recently experienced a similar crime wave, with nine people killed in 36 shootings last weekend. Police said at least 14 of the shootings were gang-related.

    Though much larger than the eight shootings this past weekend in the District, Chicago officials said the shootings involved young males who were 18 to 25 years old.

    "The term 'crews' has never come up here," Officer Marcel Bright of the Chicago Police Department said yesterday.

    Spokespersons for Baltimore and Los Angeles police departments made similar statements.

    A Los Angeles police sergeant said the department uses the term crew to refer to a small group of gang members who commit a crime but does not use the term to describe independent groups.

    Chief Lanier also said yesterday that the 1,200 officers whom she put on patrol — three times the normal number — after the weekend shootings will remain on duty for the rest of the week.

    She said that she would not alter her All Hands on Deck initiative during which the entire 4,000-officer department works patrol shifts of three-day periods.

    Police said there have been no arrests in the weekend shootings but identified Melvin R. Seals of the 4600 block of Foote Street Northeast as the victim of a shooting Saturday at Morse Street and Montello Avenue Northeast.

    As of yesterday, the District had 50 homicides, just one fewer than at the same time last year, according to numbers from the department.

    Seventeen of the killings have been in the Fifth District, which is double the number at this time last year.

    Sterling Meyers and Gary Emerling contributed to this report.


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    So your wife was raped and murdered by a gang?
    No, they told me it was a crew so at least I feel a little better about it now.


    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    Shakespeare's word-play quibbles are high art. Euphemistic neologisms by the semi-literate postmoderns are artless. Gang:crew rifle:assault-weapon

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    <sarcasm>

    I'm glad for the handgun ban, just imagine how many more would be dieing if people obeying the law could own handguns for self-protection!

    Just like Mayor Fenty said:
    "The handgun ban has saved countless lives, but this fundamental part of the District's public safety laws" (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...300797_pf.html)

    We need stricter bans that are currently in place to prevent these crews from harming each other. I believe if we get the guns off the street, most crime will just stop. Guns are the problem here in DC. We should also consider limiting the fourth amendment. That way everyone in DC could be search at will. We might just get more guns off the street! Who wouldn't want to give up a little needed right for safety

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    I cannot believe the spin they are putting on it. At least the media reporting it quotes other stating DC is just in denial that these are not gangs.

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    Nah, I'll continue to call them scum sucking criminal gangs. Eactly what they are.



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    Well, I guess at Bloomy's national "Mayor's Against the United States Constitution, American culture, Individual Right of Self-Defense and Personal Freedom" conferences, DC's mayor can claim they do not have a "gang" problem like so many other cities, but rather an iffy "crew situation" they are working on. Now the fact that "gang problems" and "crew situations" both primarily involve large number black and hispanic males age 17-25 terrorizing the city, raping, murdering, robbing and dealing drugs is merely a coincidence easily ameliorated by the proper langauge:

    Terrorizing the city = over exuberant community outreach
    Raping = culturally ambiguous declined intimate encounter
    Murder = negatively fatal social interaction
    Robbing = redistribution of community resources
    Dealing drugs = unlicensed pharmacology transactions
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    Welcome to Planet Washington. Where both handguns and common sense are considered dangerous and illegal.

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    "The very first step in dealing with gangs is denial," said Capt. Charles Bloom of the Philadelphia Police Department.
    Now that's how to properly "Serve & Protect", LMAO!

    -Badger

    Also, thought this was an appropriate quote.

    "To ignore evil is to become an accomplice to it." -MLK

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    badger wrote:
    "The very first step in dealing with gangs is denial," said Capt. Charles Bloom of the Philadelphia Police Department.
    Now that's how to properly "Serve & Protect", LMAO!

    -Badger
    Well, it's probably the most honest thing an administrative LEO has said since 1963.
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    When the Feds decided to crack down on Mafia activities and put a big dent in their influence that made fertile ground for the growth of gangs. We need to quit harassing the poor working mafia that were keeping our streets safe from these gang types. We need toturn Tony Soprano loose to clean up our streets.

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    PT111 wrote:
    When the Feds decided to crack down on Mafia activities and put a big dent in their influence that made fertile ground for the growth of gangs. We need to quit harassing the poor working mafia that were keeping our streets safe from these gang types. We need toturn Tony Soprano loose to clean up our streets.
    I think you hit the nail right on the head. The city where I grew up was thousands of times safer and cleaner when the mob ran the streets. Now it is in real bad shape and the problems are spreading well into the burbs and beyond; the best thing I remember about it now was seeing it in the rear view mirror.

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