Who needs a gun at a stoplight?

darrel_h · Apr 30, 2008

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I'm surprised no one's posted this yet, as far as I could see. If they have, I apologize for the duplicate.

http://www.insidenova.com/isn/news/local/article/boy_arrested_for_shots_at_mall_parking_lot/14671/

bohdi · Apr 30, 2008

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That ought to be an interesting one to follow. Good find. I happen to be in that area usually twice a month, and I always carry down there.

xd.40 · Apr 30, 2008

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I'm surprised that anyone goes there anymore. I know I don't go to Potomic Mills anymore...

bohdi · Apr 30, 2008

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I don't goto the mall itself, it's a halfway point decided uponby a judge, custody issues...

xd.40 · Apr 30, 2008

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Sorry I posted that before I saw you posted :lol: After an incident I had there last year, I refuse to go back. I avoid it like the plague!

darrel_h · Apr 30, 2008

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I'll honestly be surprised if we hear anything else about this. It's just nice to hear of someone with a CHP so close by actually using it to defend themselves. I live in this general area and keep seeing more and more robberies, muggings, etc... going on around the mall, dale blvd, rt 1. I just pray I'm never placed in this situation. I haven't been to Potomac Mills in quite some time, but I do still go once in blue moon. Of course, I'll never OC there but....

xd.40 · Apr 30, 2008

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I was thinking, that could have been me. I'll be 25 this year, and always carry, and lived in that area a while ago...

bohdi · Apr 30, 2008

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This was the area where a young man (13 I think) asked me about open carrying, I posted the story somewhere, probably the OC in NOVA thread. Kid had an assault with deadly weapon charge already.....wow.

Of course, it's not the 16 year olds fault he fired the gun, it's the guns fault. Not the kids fault, not the parents fault, the guns fault I'm sure......

Marco · Apr 30, 2008

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I've been to that Mall twice and OC'd both times with no incidents (yes, I know it is posted).
I even bumped into two county cops onceand they asked about my gun, to which Ireplied"Areyou working for the mall or the county and if there are no complaints I'll continue shopping."

But after the violence last summer, a stabbing and shooting we won't be returning.
The risk isn't worth the reward.

Glad to hear the law abiding citizen wasn't injured and the thug was arrested.

possumboy · Apr 30, 2008

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It is very important to note that the BOY was arrested, not the man with the concealed carry permit.

From the information we have, it seems like a defensive use that possibly saved the man's life by not making him a victim.

bohdi · Apr 30, 2008

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Good point. Shouldn't the boy have been arrested anyway as he was illegally in possession of a handgun/firearm without adult supervision?

possumboy · Apr 30, 2008

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It did say he was a passenager, maybe his dad was driving.

I hope he had a note saying he could take his son shooting. Yes, under VA law, I need a note to take my son shooting. I will look up the code when I can.

bohdi · Apr 30, 2008

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possumboy wrote:

It did say he was a passenager, maybe his dad was driving.

I hope he had a note saying he could take his son shooting. Yes, under VA law, I need a note to take my son shooting. I will look up the code when I can.

If his dad was driving :what:they both ought to get slapped with tuna. Dad should lose his rights to parent. You made me go back and read it again, again, lol.

"Police said the argument started while the two, each passengers in separate vehicles, were at the stoplight at Smoke-town Road and Nazarene Way."

Could have been another legal age driver, like a friend of his who thought they were the shiznit because they were packing heat. Bet they both crapped their pants when the other guy pulled out his weapon and started firing. Sounds like no one got hurt at all, which is very fortunate for the young man and the driver of his vehicle.

possumboy · Apr 30, 2008

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bohdi wrote:

If his dad was driving :what:they both ought to get slapped with tuna. Dad should lose his rights to parent. You made me go back and read it again, again, lol.

"Police said the argument started while the two, each passengers in separate vehicles, were at the stoplight at Smoke-town Road and Nazarene Way."

Could have been another legal age driver, like a friend of his who thought they were the shiznit because they were packing heat. Bet they both crapped their pants when the other guy pulled out his weapon and started firing. Sounds like no one got hurt at all, which is very fortunate for the young man and the driver of his vehicle.

No matter how you look at it, he was in violation of § 18.2-308.7. Possession or transportation of certain firearms by persons under the age of 18

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+coh+18.2-308.7+402881

I don't see how he meets any of the exceptions in the situation described.

bohdi · Apr 30, 2008

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1. Any person (i) while in his home or on his property; (ii) while in the home or on the property of his parent, grandparent, or legal guardian; or (iii) while on the property of another who has provided prior permission, and with the prior permission of his parent or legal guardian if the person has the landowner's written permission on his person while on such property;

How twisted would it have to be to argue that the car is the parents property?

deepdiver · Apr 30, 2008

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Just ridiculous that a traffic argument turns into a shootout. I'm sorry, but if the little bastage drew and fired first we should just stick the needle in his arm now and save the taxpayers a lot of future pain and agony from his future crimes. Being under 18 should not in any way equal an abdication for violent acts.

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