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    So I saw reference to this site, http://www.concealed-carry.net/, on another thread and thought I'd put it out here to find out if it's as legit as it says.

    I live in VT and am moving soon. I'd like to have a permit to carry concealed before I do that is valid in as many states as possible that I will be driving through. One of the states that offers nonresident permits that has the highest number of states that I will be driving through is VA.

    So...does this thing actually met VA's requirments for training?

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    "The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good." - George Washington

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    Where in Va are you moving to?
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    Actually I'll be moving to AZ. I'll be passing through a bunch of states and I'm trying to find a state that has a nonresident permit that covers as many states that I'll be passing through as possible.

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    VtCO wrote:
    Actually I'll be moving to AZ. I'll be passing through a bunch of states and I'm trying to find a state that has a nonresident permit that covers as many states that I'll be passing through as possible.
    If you pass through Va. near the end of June, we'll be conducting our Utah class. I think that may interest you.

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    Check AZ law but if I remember correctly, they won't recognize NON Res permits from other states for AZ residents. Don't have time to research at this time.

    Utah Non Resshould give you the most bang for your buck, but remember to get a AZ permit.
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    Fortunetly once I get to AZ I'll be ok and won't need a permit (if it's an issue). I'll be OCing until I am covered by LEOSA (which will be within a couple of months of moving there).

    Though according to handgunlaw AZ will recognize most permits.

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    Bottom of the page, bold text (mine).
    AZ residents can't carry concealed on a out of state permit.






    13-3112. Concealed weapons; qualification; application; permit to carry; certificate of firearms proficiency; training program; program instructors; report; applicability; violation; classification

    A. The department of public safety shall issue a permit to carry a concealed weapon to a person who is qualified under this section. The person shall carry the permit at all times when the person is in actual possession of the concealed weapon and shall present the permit for inspection to any law enforcement officer on request.

    B. A person who fails to carry the permit at all times that the person is in actual possession of a concealed weapon may have the permit suspended. The department of public safety shall be notified of all violations of this section and shall immediately suspend the permit. The permittee shall present the permit to the law enforcement agency or the court. On notification of the presentation of the permit, the department shall restore the permit.

    C. The permit of a person who is arrested or indicted for an offense that would make the person unqualified under section 13-3101, subsection A, paragraph 6 or this section shall be immediately suspended and seized. The permit of a person who becomes unqualified on conviction of that offense shall be revoked. The permit shall be restored on presentation of documentation from the court if the permittee is found not guilty or the charges are dismissed. The permit shall be restored on presentation of documentation from the county attorney that the charges against the permittee were dropped or dismissed.

    D. A permittee who carries a concealed weapon and who fails to present a permit for inspection on the request of a law enforcement officer is guilty of a petty offense. A permittee shall not be convicted of a violation of this subsection if the permittee produces to the court a legible permit that is issued to the permitteeand that was valid at the time the violation of this subsection occurred.

    E. The department of public safety shall issue a permit to an applicant who meets all of the following conditions:

    1. Is a resident of this state or a United States citizen.

    2. Is twenty-one years of age or older.

    3. Is not under indictment for and has not been convicted in any jurisdiction of a felony.

    4. Does not suffer from mental illness and has not been adjudicated mentally incompetent or committed to a mental institution.

    5. Is not unlawfully present in the United States.

    6. Satisfactorily completes a firearms safety training program approved by the department of public safety pursuant to subsection O of this section. This paragraph does not apply to:

    (a) A person who is an active duty Arizona peace officer standards and training board certified or federally credentialed peace officer or who is honorably retired as a federal, state or local peace officer with a minimum of ten years of service.

    (b) A person who is an active duty county detention officer and who has been weapons certified by the officer's employing agency.

    (c) A person who is issued a certificate of firearms proficiency pursuant to subsection X of this section.

    F. The application shall be completed on a form prescribed by the department of public safety. The form shall not require the applicant to disclose the type of firearm for which a permit is sought. The applicant shall attest under penalty of perjury that all of the statements made by the applicant are true. The applicant shall submit the application to the department with a certificate of completion from an approved firearms safety training program, two sets of fingerprints and a reasonable fee determined by the director of the department.

    G. On receipt of a concealed weapon permit application, the department of public safety shall conduct a check of the applicant's criminal history record pursuant to section 41-1750. The department of public safety may exchange fingerprint card information with the federal bureau of investigation for federal criminal history record checks.

    H. The department of public safety shall complete all of the required qualification checks within sixty days after receipt of the application and shall issue a permit within fifteen working days after completing the qualification checks if the applicant meets all of the conditions specified in subsection E of this section. If a permit is denied, the department of public safety shall notify the applicant in writing within fifteen working days after the completion of all of the required qualification checks and shall state the reasons why the application was denied. On receipt of the notification of the denial, the applicant has twenty days to submit any additional documentation to the department. On receipt of the additional documentation, the department shall reconsider its decision and inform the applicant within twenty days of the result of the reconsideration. If denied, the applicant shall be informed that the applicant may request a hearing pursuant to title 41, chapter 6, article 10.

    I. On issuance, a permit is valid for five years, except a permit that is held by a member of the United States armed forces, including a member of the Arizona national guard or a member of the reserves of any military establishment of the United States, who is on federal active duty and who is deployed overseas shall be extended until ninety days after the end of the member's overseas deployment.

    J. The department of public safety shall maintain a computerized permit record system that is accessible to criminal justice agencies for the purpose of confirming the permit status of any person who claims to hold a valid permit issued by this state. This information and any other records that are maintained regarding applicants, permit holders or instructors shall not be available to any other person or entity except on an order from a state or federal court.

    K. Notwithstanding subsection J of this section, it is a defense to any charge for carrying a deadly weapon without a permit by a member of the United States armed forces, including a member of the Arizona national guard or a member of the reserves of any military establishment of the United States, if the member was on federal active duty at the time the permit expired and the member presents documentation indicating release from active duty or reassignment from overseas deployment within the preceding ninety days.

    L. A permit issued pursuant to this section is renewable every five years. Before a permit may be renewed, a criminal history records check shall be conducted pursuant to section 41-1750 within sixty days after receipt of the application for renewal. For the purposes of permit renewal, the permit holder is not required to submit additional fingerprints.

    M. Applications for renewal shall be accompanied by a fee determined by the director of the department of public safety.

    N. The department of public safety shall suspend or revoke a permit issued under this section if the permit holder becomes ineligible pursuant to subsection E of this section. The department of public safety shall notify the permit holder in writing within fifteen working days after the revocation or suspension and shall state the reasons for the revocation or suspension.

    O. An organization shall apply to the department of public safety for approval of its firearms safety training program. The department shall approve a program that meets the following requirements:

    1. Is at least eight hours in length.

    2. Is conducted on a pass or fail basis.

    3. Addresses all of the following topics in a format approved by the director of the department:

    (a) Legal issues relating to the use of deadly force.

    (b) Weapon care and maintenance.

    (c) Mental conditioning for the use of deadly force.

    (d) Safe handling and storage of weapons.

    (e) Marksmanship.

    (f) Judgmental shooting.

    4. Is conducted by instructors who submit to a background investigation, including a check for warrants and a criminal history records check.

    P. If approved pursuant to subsection O of this section, the organization shall submit to the department of public safety two sets of fingerprints from each instructor and a fee to be determined by the director of the department of public safety. On receipt of the fingerprints and fee, the department of public safety shall conduct a check of each instructor's criminal history record pursuant to section 41-1750. The department of public safety may exchange this fingerprint card information with the federal bureau of investigation for federal criminal history record checks.

    Q. The proprietary interest of all approved instructors and programs shall be safeguarded, and the contents of any training program shall not be disclosed to any person or entity other than a bona fide criminal justice agency, except upon an order from a state or federal court.

    R. If the department of public safety rejects a program, the rejected organization may request a hearing pursuant to title 41, chapter 6, article 10.

    S. The department of public safety shall maintain information comparing the number of permits requested, the number of permits issued and the number of permits denied. The department shall annually report this information to the governor and the legislature.

    T. The director of the department of public safety shall adopt rules for the purpose of implementing and administering the concealed weapons permit program including fees relating to permits and certificates that are issued pursuant to this section.

    U. This state and any political subdivision of this state shall recognize a concealed weapon, firearm or handgun permit or license that is issued by another state or a political subdivision of another state if both:

    1. The permit or license is recognized as valid in the issuing state.

    2. The permit or license holder is all of the following:

    (a) Not a resident of this state.

    (b) Legally present in this state.

    (c) Not legally prohibited from possessing a firearm in this state.

    V. For the purpose of establishing mutual permit or license recognition with other states, the department of public safety shall enter into a written agreement if another state requires a written agreement.

    W. Notwithstanding the provisions of this section, a person with a concealed weapons permit from another state may not carry a concealed weapon in this state if the person is under twenty-one years of age or is under indictment for, or has been convicted of, a felony offense in any jurisdiction, even if the person's rights have been restored and the conviction is expunged, set aside or vacated.

    X. The department of public safety may issue certificates of firearms proficiency according to the Arizona peace officer standards and training board firearms qualification for the purposes of implementing the law enforcement officers safety act of 2004 (P.L. 108-277; 118 Stat. 865; 18 United States Code sections 926B and 926C). A law enforcement agency shall issue to a law enforcement officer who has honorably retired a photographic identification that states that the officer has honorably retired from the agency. The chief law enforcement officer shall determine whether an officer has honorably retired and the determination is not subject to review. A law enforcement agency has no obligation to revoke, alter or modify the honorable discharge photographic identification based on conduct that the agency becomes aware of or that occurs after the officer has separated from the agency.
    If you think like a Statist, act like one, or back some, you've given up on freedom and have gone over to the dark side.
    The easiest ex. but probably the most difficult to grasp for gun owners is that fool permission slip so many of you have, especially if you show it off with pride. You should recognize it as an embarrassment, an infringement, a travesty and an affront to a free person.


    ~Alan Korwin

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