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    Guns in restaurants draw stares but little outcry

    http://www.newsadvance.com/lna/busin...e_outcry/4722/



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    I don't remember using the words sidling, saloon, or redneck... but I was the first one who tipped him to opencarry.org according to the writer. I said that these dinners aren't new to Virginia, and most of us have been doing them for years. OC did get a mention, so yay!
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    Comment posted; the first poster immediately said "well, that just figures; a bunch of people wearing guns to feel important and attract attention". The guy obviously didn't bother to read the very next sentence, where NOBODY CARED.

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    I found the comments from the guys comparing Fairfax to SE DC funny. I don't care where you're at, crime happens. I buy stuff at Walmart, and I have to call India for support on my servers, but I won't outsource my safety.

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    I sent a reply, but it hasnt been posted yet.
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    Seems like damalama is getting some heat.

    I had to add my 2¢, just felt like the normal thing to do.

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    Gosh - it looks like I am getting some great defenders in the comment section...



    and all I did was grab the microphone to ask where the bathroom was....

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    Todays article - does anyone have a copy?



    Can we get a couple of copies in case we need them for the general assembly next year?

    Does anyone have one? (more is better)

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    Carry On.

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    No one was kicked out? Thats unpossible!

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    http://www.dailypress.com/news/local...0,364814.story
    The usual mix of pro and anti stuff, but for AP news, its better than usual.


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    Good job guys, that is just awesome.
    Peace through superior firepower

    Luke 11:21
    "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed.

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    longwatch wrote: Anyone read the comments on the WTOP site?

    Man, those folks are getting real nasty with each other.

    It the Apocalyptical arfcom v DU.

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    Glock27Bill wrote:
    Anyone read the comments on the WTOP site?

    Man, those folks are getting real nasty with each other.

    It the Apocalyptical arfcom v DU.
    I have really been enjoying them...but I am not sure what the "DU" is. Where I work it would mean "Dumb User"

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    I think DU = Democrat Underground

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    longwatch wrote:
    I think DU = Democrat Underground
    Yup.

    Sorry, didn't mean to be cryptic.

    But, man, it's Hell over there. No facts, no statistics, just bare knuckle name calling.

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    Glock27Bill wrote:
    longwatch wrote:
    I think DU = Democrat Underground
    Yup.

    Sorry, didn't mean to be cryptic.

    But, man, it's Hell over there.* No facts, no statistics, just bare knuckle name calling.
    There is nothing more frustrating to me than see the pro rights guys start in with the name calling. If we're really in the right there is no need for it. It just gives the anti-rights guys reason to dismiss us. Even if they start in on it first we need to rise above it.

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    ccunning wrote:
    Glock27Bill wrote:
    longwatch wrote:
    I think DU = Democrat Underground
    Yup.

    Sorry, didn't mean to be cryptic.

    But, man, it's Hell over there. No facts, no statistics, just bare knuckle name calling.
    There is nothing more frustrating to me than see the pro rights guys start in with the name calling. If we're really in the right there is no need for it. It just gives the anti-rights guys reason to dismiss us. Even if they start in on it first we need to rise above it.
    Agreed, although I'm not concerned with the antis dismissing us since they already have, but the "neutrals" who might read such and decide we are no better.

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    The same articlewas in the Martinsville bulletin on Sunday on the back page of Section A I believe it was, couldnt find a link.

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    Apparently this dinner was at a Champps?

    That is so funny. Here in CO, it is legal to carry OC or CC in an alcohol-serving venue. There are few places posted no-carry here, but the local Champps is posted.

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    Anubis wrote:
    Apparently this dinner was at a Champps?
    Yes, and all the managers had their CHP except for one newbe and training had been scheduled.

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    I open carried at Mike's American in Springfield a couple of weeks ago and not a thing was said to me. As usual, I enjoyed a near perfect medium rare ribeye.

    I've also OC'd in Kilroy's before, but the last time was several months ago.

    Of course I didn't get up an announce to the whole restaurant that I was carrying. I was seated, I ordered, ate, and left.



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    I don't want to hijack this thread and I realize that this is long, so feel free to delete if necessary and I'll start a thread of my own. I just wanted to share an email that I just sent to Sen. Saslaw:

    Senator Saslaw,
    After reading an article in the Bristol Herald Courier dated Tuesday, May 11, 2008 and entitled "Guns in restaurants draw stares but little outcry", I feel compelled to voice my concerns with your current stand on gun rights.
    While you may be a very fine man, your views on gun ownership and gun rights could not more wrong. One thing that you are correct about is that the article quotes you as saying "What normal person walks around with a gun on your hip? Something's wrong in your life." As much as I hate to admit it, you are entirely correct. There are LOTS of things wrong in life. That's the whole reason that I walk around with a gun on my hip. There are lots of things wrong in your life also.
    There are lots of things wrong in everyone's life. For you to imply that someone shouldn't employ means to protect themselves and their loved ones is beyond words. Let me tell you a story.

    Oct. 4th, 2007- I received a frantic call from my wife around 3:00pm stating that she had just come home with my 3 young sons to find that the back door had been kicked in. During the course of our conversation, she said that she heard someone upstairs. I immediately told her to get the boys and get out of the house. She went to a friends house and I left work to head home, (a 55 minute drive).

    I arrived home and to my good fortune happened to have a single shot .410 shotgun and some ammo in my outdoor building because my oldest son and I had gone squirrel hunting the previous morning. I went into the house with the shotgun and shells to clear the house of any remaining danger and noticed that the intruders had stolen all of my guns and ammo except for one shotgun that remained in the gun safe. My wife had been in the house with armed intruders with my three small children. After clearing the house, I called 911 at 4:30pm. At 6:30pm, I called 911 back and was told that they had not dispatched anyone yet. Apparently I called right at the shift change and had gotten "lost in the shuffle". At 7:30pm, a Washington County, VA deputy pulled up in my driveway, apologized for taking so long and took about 4 pictures of the crime scene.

    The intruders had touched at least 4 doors in my house along with my gun safe. When I asked the deputy if he was planning on taking fingerprints he replied "there are too many CSI shows on TV nowadays. Nobody leaves fingerprints anymore." When I pressed him and insisted, he went out to his trunk to look and said that he "must have left his fingerprint kit at the station". He then left and I never heard another word from them.
    I was told that he would check the pawn shops in the area. For the next 6 weeks, I went every Saturday to every pawn shop and gun shop within 50 miles and gave them pictures and descriptionsof the guns and told them to be on the lookout for a deputy asking about them. Never once did anyone come in asking about the guns describe. It was less than a month later that I had my CHP in hand.

    It wasn't two weeks later that someone was trying to kick down my back door screaming for some lady that I'd never heard of. When I confronted him, he was sweating profusely, shaking, as white as a sheet and his pupils were completely dilated. I had to actually draw a my .40 pistol to get his attention. This guy lives not 3 miles from my home and I see him almost daily. He had his two small children in the truck with him and I had to threaten to shoot him before he left. But not before spewing all sorts of obscenities at my own children. We have never had contact again.

    Less than one year later and I got stopped in a traffic stop less than 3 miles from my home. Actually it was directly in front of the former gentleman's house. The state police officer that stopped me asked for ID. I displayed my license and CHP. He asked me if I was carrying and I told him that I was. He asked that I keep it in view at all times and keep my hands clear of it. No problem. He then asked if he could look in the back of my jeep. I didn't have a problem with it and opened it up and let him see the back and the back seat. I asked him what this was about and he showed me a picture of a guy and asked if I recognized him. I told him that I did. Less than a month before, I had caught the guy in the picture trespassing on my dock on the piece of river front that I own. When asked to leave, he got beligerant (he was profusely drunk anyway), and he and his friends started threatening me and my oldest son who happened to be with me. I actually had to draw the weapon on him also when he started towards me.

    It turns out that this guy had been displayed on America's Most Wanted and they had tried to apprehend him two houses down from mine. He was a convicted sex offender from Pennsylvania and had run to my town to escape new charges of child molestation and was on the run.

    I realize that this is rather long and detailed. However, I wanted to make a point that you are ABSOLUTELY correct. People that walk around with guns on their hips do, indeed, have something wrong in their lives. The problem is that people that don't walk around with guns on their hips have something wrong in their lives as well. They just choose not to do anything about it until it is sometimes too late.

    I can't say that I agree with you as much on your choice to support VA Tech in their unconstitutional decision not to allow law abiding students the basic right of self defense. But that is an email for a different day. . .


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    Bravo riegnman

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