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possumboy wrote:
BobCav wrote:
You know, I have thought of it (Excellent idea, BTW!), but haven't done it.
I'm disagreeing with Bob - First time I think.
Why put someone on notice that you are doing something legal?
Our goal, at least mine, is to make it common place. Calling, emailing, or writing seems like you are trying to stand out with a "Hey, look at what I'm going to be doing!"
Just OC! I do not write the EPA and tell them I am going to vacuum my house. I do not write the local park and tell them I'm going to be there at opening to take a morning hike. I do not write Virginia Game and Wildlife to tell them I will be hunting on my own land.
OC should be an everyday occurrence.
Your rights are something you need to fight for, but don't go looking for the fight.
LOL...first time for everything! Disagreement is a good thing. Here's my thinking, see if you still completely disagree after reading this:
Whilethe EPA has no say inside your home (nor does OSHA) and Fish, Game and Wildlifehas no say on your property either, I agree 100% that it
shouldn't be necessary, but I think that for now, it is.I would add that while lawfullycarrying a gunin public is legal, as we unfortunately know all too well, not all LEO's are aware of that fact, or are aware and choose to ignore the law in favor of their own agenda, therefore making
At best, it should only be necessary once in any given town. It also gives them notice that you absolutely know and understand the law with regard to carrying your firearmand are not some slack jawed drooler just out to mess with the police, but a responsible citizen that is part of the solution, not part of the problem and not out to make their jbos more difficult. Actually, if more people OC'ed, it should make their jobs easier.
We may OC in the company of other witnesses or usea recorder to as evidence of such failures during and after the fact,but I see this asanother potential tool that may help BEFORE the fact, a pre-emptive strike as it were,
preventing anyone from being Terry Stopped or worse, laid out at gunpoint like ComSec just was. To me, that's as good as gold.
We
do need it to be common place, and while OC'ing is one way to interact with that
oneLEO that
might notice, or that FEW citizens that
may catch a glimpse and ask a question, I believe that this has the potentialto ensure ALL the LEO's in your town are made aware and will probablyreceive training. In fact, you could also submit a pre-existing Training Bulletin or even offer to help in its creation, showing them you're part of the solution, not part of the problem! We already have many folks here that have done just that and it has worked wonders.
Putting pen to paper and signing it is extremely powerful! They cannot ignore it and must respond. If they are aware of the law, it could lead to anOC training bulletinand training of ALL their officers en-masse on the legality of OCand that IS one of the purposes of OC - education! I can handle the anti's, it's the other guys with guns and agendas that don't know or ignore the law that scare me.
If they don't know the law, they'll first check to see if it's not illegalwiththe city attorney, then respond either in the affirmative or with what THEY believe to be the law.They will have to commit their response to paper proving beyond a reasonable doubt thatthey either understand the law, or do not.
To me it seems like another pro-active, make sense thing that you can choose to do to CYA, like keeping a range log and copies of your paper targets.