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Gun on Blue Ridge Parkway - no notice required

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Neplusultra wrote:
vt357 wrote: What about the notion of, what is it called, fair travel, safe travel... Where you can have a gun in your car if you are traveling "through" a state, without stops (gas excepted I would imagine), even though it is illegal to have one in that state.
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I think what you are referring to is the "Peaceable Journey" law, a federal law which allows you to carry a firearm, UNLOADED, and stored in the trunk or under lock and key while driving directly through states which don't allow their own citizens to own or carry arms (or should I say "keep and bear arms"?). This applies to driving through some of the socialist states like MD and NJ, or other occupied territories where the Bill of Rights isn't fully observed. Unfortunately it doesn't apply to driving on or through federal territory with a LOADED gun.
 
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vt357 wrote:
Basically if it is a "Parkway" then having a loaded firearm is most likely prohibited.  So that means the Blue Ridge Parkway, the Colonial Parkway in Williamsburg, and the George Washington Memorial Parkway outside DC are all "no-gos."  :(

I used to drive down the Colonial Parkway all the time.  It is very pretty and can be a nice detour off of I-64 if traffic is bad.  Once I found out that the pavement on that road is national park service property, I haven't been back since.
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The majority of Parkways are actually locally or state owned.
 
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nitrovic wrote:
vt357 wrote:
Basically if it is a "Parkway" then having a loaded firearm is most likely prohibited. So that means the Blue Ridge Parkway, the Colonial Parkway in Williamsburg, and the George Washington Memorial Parkway outside DC are all "no-gos." :(

I used to drive down the Colonial Parkway all the time. It is very pretty and can be a nice detour off of I-64 if traffic is bad. Once I found out that the pavement on that road is national park service property, I haven't been back since.
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The majority of Parkways are actually locally or state owned.
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Why do we drive on a parkway and park on a driveway?

Couldn't help it. :banghead:
 
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Skeptic wrote:
I still fail to understand the rationale behind and authority for the firearms prohibition on federal property, other than a hatred of liberty.

There are some so-called constitutional "scholars" that claim that the second amendment does not apply to the states because it was never "incorporated" to the states after the civil war. But even that argument has no weight in the case of what is clearly federal jurisdiction.


Maybe the history I learned in schools was faulty, but I could have sworn we kicked out the king, and were supposed to have a government bound by the constitution.
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I've thought the very same thing myself. Rightsdocumented by the Constitution being negated in Federal buildings and on Federal property is total B.S.
 
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Glock27Bill wrote:
Skeptic wrote:
I still fail to understand the rationale behind and authority for the firearms prohibition on federal property, other than a hatred of liberty.

There are some so-called constitutional "scholars" that claim that the second amendment does not apply to the states because it was never "incorporated" to the states after the civil war. But even that argument has no weight in the case of what is clearly federal jurisdiction.


Maybe the history I learned in schools was faulty, but I could have sworn we kicked out the king, and were supposed to have a government bound by the constitution.
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I've thought the very same thing myself. Rightsdocumented by the Constitution being negated in Federal buildings and on Federal property is total B.S.
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Maybe I can make it clear for you.

We, the Imperial Federal Government, have instituted vast and complex regulations that have the force of law. We often cannot understand these regulations even though we have an army of lawyers to help us understand. All of this confusion will not keep us from persecuting any mere subject that dares to violate said confusing regulations. Why?

1. Becausewe can. We pay the Federal Judges and they do what we want.

2. We don't like armed citizens, so we will scare them into forfeiting their rights. We will make it so scary and risky to own a gun that people will not want guns. Some innocent people get hurt and justice is perverted, but the ends justify the means.

Is that clear enough?
 
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hlh wrote:
I was on the BRP this last few days on a motorcycle. I was CCing until just before the parkway where I unloaded the gun and placed it in the bottom of one of my bags, I placed the magazine in the bottom of another bag. I bet I was still illegal because the gun wasn't "locked". Motorcycles present another set of problems.
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You could buy hard side , lockable, saddle boxes or be the test case for all of the other carrying motorcycle riders. Tell it to the judge! :D

Yata hey
 
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hlh wrote:
Grapeshot wrote:
hlh wrote:
I was on the BRP this last few days on a motorcycle. I was CCing until just before the parkway where I unloaded the gun and placed it in the bottom of one of my bags, I placed the magazine in the bottom of another bag. I bet I was still illegal because the gun wasn't "locked". Motorcycles present another set of problems.
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You could buy hard side , lockable, saddle boxes or be the test case for all of the other carrying motorcycle riders. Tell it to the judge! :D

Yata hey
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You got me thinking, maybe all I need is a locking case inside of the existing soft bags, or maybe a trigger lock will work.
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What about locking under your seat?
 
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mpg9999 wrote:
hlh wrote:
Grapeshot wrote:
hlh wrote:
I was on the BRP this last few days on a motorcycle. I was CCing until just before the parkway where I unloaded the gun and placed it in the bottom of one of my bags, I placed the magazine in the bottom of another bag. I bet I was still illegal because the gun wasn't "locked". Motorcycles present another set of problems.
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You could buy hard side , lockable, saddle boxes or be the test case for all of the other carrying motorcycle riders. Tell it to the judge! :D

Yata hey
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You got me thinking, maybe all I need is a locking case inside of the existing soft bags, or maybe a trigger lock will work.
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What about locking under your seat?
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You ain't getting anything under the seat of our motorcycle....
 
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A law is something created by elected representatives, okayed by the executive, and is applicable to all the people.

A regulation is something created by nonelected bureaucrats, and in theory should apply only to the government entity.

Constitutionally, how can a citizen be convicted of violating a regulation?
 
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Statkowski wrote:
A law is something created by elected representatives, okayed by the executive, and is applicable to all the people.

A regulation is something created by nonelected bureaucrats, and in theory should apply only to the government entity.

Constitutionally, how can a citizen be convicted of violating a regulation?
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Only through the connivance of cops "Just following orders."

Either we are equal or we are not. Good people ought to be armed where they will, with wits and guns and the truth. NRA KMA$$
 
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unrequited wrote:
W.E.G. wrote:
Part of the George Washington Parkway near DC is actually IN Washington DC, even though the road is entirely on the Western side of the Potomac River.

An unmarked quarter-mile or so in the area between Roaches Run and Francis Scott Key Bridge.

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WHAT? Can I get a reference?
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You certainly may.


See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington_Memorial_Parkway

"a short section northwest of the Arlington Memorial Bridge passes over Columbia Island, which is within the District of Columbia."
 
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