Went to the Orem Gunnies today to get a closer view of the SA XDs so that I could make a decision regarding size, when I do get the money to buy it, anyway, I signed in at the cash register, as per their posted policy, then went back to the gun counter. The guy who helped me was a guy who I had known to work at the American Fork Cal-ranch. When I was looking at the XDs, which by the way, I have decided on a .40 S&W Service model in OD. anyway I asked if it was okay that I compare the size of my S&W Model 10 to the service model, he asked me if it was unloaded and I said that it was. When I had it next to the XD he picked my model 10 up as if to examine it, which i had no problem with. He swung out the cylinder and says to me " This is loaded! " Too which I respond, according to state law it is. Then, as he knows who I am, and that I'm not 21, he says that I'm not supposed to even possess a handgun, at which point I'm slightly annoyed, and I tell him to give it back to me. he reluctantly hands it back to me and I proceed to try and educate him on the law. He responds by grabbing a copy of Mitch Vilos book about utah gun law. While flipping through the book he tells me that OC is illegal, inviting trouble, that the LEO's could arrest me on a "Disturbing the peace" charge if anybody felt uncomfortable or threatened, and that Orem had some OC restriction in place. Then he stops on a page in the book, says "There it says right there." Then when I ask to see, he closes the book and puts it behind the counter. He refuses to change his mind despite me knowing not only the laws but the code numbers of those laws. Then I go back to the area where they keep there books, pick up the same book and proceed to tear apart his "laws" which were all bogus according to that book. He threatens to kick me out of the store, and I say that I won't be shopping there again. Tommorrow I'm calling and speaking with a manager about the situation. Their policy is that if you carry in the store, that you sign in at the register. All you have to do is fill out the model, caliber, make, then sign your name. Seems decently reasonable to me. As long as they're not busy, I have no problem with that policy. I'm just really annoyed about how stubborn he was. Even when proved wrong beyond a doubt, he still persisted. There's a line between passionate and just stupid. He crossed it. Anyone wanna go to Gunnies?