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    Contacted by The Times-Tribune, Lackawanna County District Attorney Andy Jarbola declined to comment on this specific case, but said people have a right to openly carry a weapon without having to show identification or a permit.

    “Police can ask, but if they don’t want to give it, they don’t have to,” he said. “It’s going to be surprising to the public, but that’s the current state of law.”


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    http://www.thetimes-tribune.com/site...0572&rfi=8

    Gun owners protest police action with video

    BY CHARLES SCHILLINGER
    STAFF WRITER

    05/14/2008


    DICKSON CITY — A Friday evening police incident spilled over into a Borough Council meeting Tuesday, with gun-rights advocates alleging harassment by two police officers.

    The regular monthly meeting erupted into a full-blown debate on the Second Amendment, with more than 20 Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association members — many of whom were openly armed — arguing their right to carry a weapon in public.

    Police have yet to release a report of the incident in which a group of customers at Old Country Buffet were questioned about openly carrying handguns in public. At least one of those customers, Rich Banks, of Luzerne County, was detained for refusing to cooperate with police in regard to his concealed .38-caliber handgun, Police Chief William Stadnitski said. Mr. Banks’ weapon remains confiscated, but the chief said he can pick it up at any time.

    Pennsylvanians are required to carry a permit for a concealed weapon; however, there are exemptions, such as in the case of Mr. Banks, who Dickson City police later found out had a federal gun-dealer license.

    “We don’t feel there was any misconduct. We did what we had to for the safety of the customers,” Chief Stadnitski said of his part-time officers, Karen Gallagher and Anthony Mariano, who responded to the restaurant after 911 received complaints. The chief said no charges will be filed.

    But some, like Andrew Koch, disagreed. Mr. Koch drove more than five hours from Pittsburgh to speak out for Mr. Banks and the other gun owners who were “embarrassed, oppressed, harassed and violated” by the police.

    “These officers need to be disciplined, and criminal charges need to be brought against them,” Mr. Koch said.

    Firearm association members turned out from all over the state at Tuesday’s meeting after postings on Internet sites, such as http://www.opencarry.org. The co-founder of that site, Lancaster resident Mike Stollenwerk, drove from Washington, D.C., to protest the police conduct.

    “Normally when hiccups like this happen, they don’t go as far as gun seizure. ... Usually it gets cleared up much quicker,” he said.

    Bill Grumbine, of Kutztown, carrying a Springfield XD-45 handgun, said he brought his 15-year-old daughter, Emily, for a “real-life civics lesson.”

    “The last thing we want to do is use our guns, just like the last thing you want to do is use the air bag in your car,” he said. “But we believe in being prepared, and we believe in exercising our rights.”

    Several council members and Mayor Anthony Zaleski defended the police officers.

    “Our officers did not know what to expect. They could be walking into situations similar to shootings at school campuses and other public events,” said council President Barbara Mecca.

    Contacted by The Times-Tribune, Lackawanna County District Attorney Andy Jarbola declined to comment on this specific case, but said people have a right to openly carry a weapon without having to show identification or a permit.

    “Police can ask, but if they don’t want to give it, they don’t have to,” he said. “It’s going to be surprising to the public, but that’s the current state of law.”

    Contact the writer: cschillinger@timesshamrock.com

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    “Our officers did not know what to expect. They could be walking into situations similar to shootings at school campuses and other public events,” said council President Barbara Mecca.
    Oh yeah. I forgot that part of the school shootings and other mass shootings where the later mass murderer was seen dining with his wife, children and dozens of friends all open carrying just prior to launching the attack. I forgot about that what with the loner profiles of these nut jobs.

    “Police can ask, but if they don’t want to give it, they don’t have to,” he said. “It’s going to be surprising to the public, but that’s the current state of law.”
    Anyone think he would have worded it this way if it was something he agreed with? The clear implication is that he is suggesting that there be a change in the law, otherwise he would have simply said, "but that's the law."
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    Thanks for posting that, Mike.

    I was getting a bit depressed that no one in the local government was going to take a stand for what is legal. This statement by Jarbola is a little bit comforting, though.


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    imperialism2024 wrote:
    Thanks for posting that, Mike.

    I was getting a bit depressed that no one in the local government was going to take a stand for what is legal. This statement by Jarbola is a little bit comforting, though.


    Next step: Hire the A-Team. And then teach them to keep their fingers off the trigger until they're ready to shoot...
    It was the 80s. Things were different back then ....

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    Does this mean that the Virginia Assclowns have opened up a new branch?

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