SWhetsel
Regular Member
imported post
As we all know there are those dreaded little signs that qoute, prohibit law abiding citizens to carry a "... deadly weapon..." in/on certain public places. However I was talking to a local prosecutor at the gun shop near my house the other day and he told me something very interesting...
I pulled this off of www.corsa.org
What I want you to notice is the part that I high lighted. Acording to this prosecutor I met, the No carry signs only apply to people that have recieved their permit. Meaning that someone without a permit, can carry in any building openly. Of course private property can ask you to leave and you must obey. However this would mean that as long as you do NOT have your permit, you would be able to carry into the local mall that is posted with the "no weapons" signs.
Now I dont know or even think that this is true. Also my example is not the best, however some anti-CCW signs have the codes at the bottom of the sign saying "in acordiance with..." blah blah blah. Those ORC laws only apply to CCW permit holders is what this guy told me. And that as long as you are open carrying without a CCW they cant hold you accountable to the CCW laws.
Also on the Ohio Attorney Generals website (http://www.ag.state.oh.us/le/prevention/concealcarry/index.asp) when you view the example sign there is a note next to the download that reads this.
It would seem that in the government "e "allowing" you to bear arms and obtain a CCW, you lose the privilage to carry anywhere. And if you do not obtain a permit, then you are clear to openly carry when ever, where ever.
Bring on the comments.... :lol:
As we all know there are those dreaded little signs that qoute, prohibit law abiding citizens to carry a "... deadly weapon..." in/on certain public places. However I was talking to a local prosecutor at the gun shop near my house the other day and he told me something very interesting...
I pulled this off of www.corsa.org
On April 8, 2004, Ohio’s concealed carry statute (HB 12) takes effect. Under the new law, ORC 2923.126 prohibits a license holder from carrying a concealed handgun into (among other places) a county jail, detention facility, courthouse, any structure in which a courtroom is located, any building owned by a county, or any portion of a privately owned building which is leased by a county. ORC 2923.1212 requires that counties post signs in all county owned and leased buildings, informing the public that concealed handguns are prohibited. The Sheriff is responsible for posting in the Sheriff’s Office, County Jail and Corrections Facilities. The Commissioners are responsible for posting in all other County buildings. The sign should be posted at each building entrance. ORC 2923.1212(A) requires the signs contain 'substantially' the following statement: "Unless otherwise authorized by law, pursuant to the Ohio Revised Code, no person shall knowingly posses, have under the person’s control, convey or attempt to convey a deadly weapon or dangerous ordinance onto these premises." Other than that, the statute does not require that the sign contain specific text or graphics. The Commissioners and the Sheriff have the discretion and the responsibility to select an appropriate sign format and post county buildings.
What I want you to notice is the part that I high lighted. Acording to this prosecutor I met, the No carry signs only apply to people that have recieved their permit. Meaning that someone without a permit, can carry in any building openly. Of course private property can ask you to leave and you must obey. However this would mean that as long as you do NOT have your permit, you would be able to carry into the local mall that is posted with the "no weapons" signs.
Now I dont know or even think that this is true. Also my example is not the best, however some anti-CCW signs have the codes at the bottom of the sign saying "in acordiance with..." blah blah blah. Those ORC laws only apply to CCW permit holders is what this guy told me. And that as long as you are open carrying without a CCW they cant hold you accountable to the CCW laws.
Also on the Ohio Attorney Generals website (http://www.ag.state.oh.us/le/prevention/concealcarry/index.asp) when you view the example sign there is a note next to the download that reads this.
Again with the CCW not open carry. I just found all of this very interesting.(NOTE: This is an example of a standard warning sign approved for use on state buildings. If you see this sign, it means that you cannot bring your concealed handgun inside. This sign is in the public domain. Businesses and persons wishing to post such signs are strongly advised to consult their legal counsel for language, style, format and placement.)
It would seem that in the government "e "allowing" you to bear arms and obtain a CCW, you lose the privilage to carry anywhere. And if you do not obtain a permit, then you are clear to openly carry when ever, where ever.
Bring on the comments.... :lol: