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SNIP I agree Freud was a loon.

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• A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.
  • This is not is not a statement that appears in any translation of any of Freud's works. It is a paraphrase of a statement from the essay "Guns, Murders, and the Constitution" (February 1990) by Don B. Kates, Jr. where Kates summarizes his views of passages in Dreams in Folklore (1958) by Freud and David E. Oppenheim, while disputing statements by Emmanuel Tanay in "Neurotic Attachment to Guns" in a 1976 edition of The Fifty Minute Hour: A Collection of True Psychoanalytic Tales (1955) by Robert Mitchell Lindner:

Dahwg wrote:

Wow, I guess I was just lucky.  My wife was a gun owner before we met. 

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"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." -- Sigmund Freud, General Introduction to Psychoanalysis (1952)

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...thanks for posting that quote Bravo_Sierra- that explains a lot about my EX wife. :lol:

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Yeah, well, use it, but Freud's theories have been largely discredited. Not all things in life can be, or should be, boiled down to sex and/or aggression. This particular quote can still be justified without Freud; most fears concerning weapons boil down to the following: "Those who have weapons are capable of killing me. I do not want to die and so I do not want them to have that power over me". This does indeed indicate an immaturity; the belief that some parental entity should protect you from others. The other major argument involves the gun as an intelligent or at least intelligence-modifying object, and by its very presence it is thus more likely to be used. This is also immature as it is irrational and emotionally based.

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posted on two forums?

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Dahwg wrote:

SNIP I agree Freud was a loon.

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Oh, hell.

Here come the wildlife advocates. I can see the next press release:



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Citizen wrote:

Dahwg wrote:

SNIP I agree Freud was a loon.

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SNIP Dahwg Unfair To Loons!

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SNIP That's just not true! I love loons!!!!

...they taste like chicken.

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Unfortunately, Freud didn't actually say that:

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• A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.

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  • This is not is not a statement that appears in any translation of any of Freud's works. It is a paraphrase of a statement from the essay "Guns, Murders, and the Constitution" (February 1990) by Don B. Kates, Jr. where Kates summarizes his views of passages in Dreams in Folklore (1958) by Freud and David E. Oppenheim, while disputing statements by Emmanuel Tanay in "Neurotic Attachment to Guns" in a 1976 edition of The Fifty Minute Hour: A Collection of True Psychoanalytic Tales (1955) by Robert Mitchell Lindner:

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Dr. Tanay is perhaps unaware of — in any event, he does not cite — other passages more relevant to his argument. In these other passages Freud associates retarded sexual and emotional development not with gun ownership, but with fear and loathing of weapons. The probative importance that ought to be attached to the views of Freud is, of course, a matter of opinion. The point here is only that those views provide no support for the penis theory of gun ownership. Due to misreading of this essay and its citations, this paraphrase of an opinion about Freud's ideas has been wrongly attributed to Freud himself, and specifically to his 10th Lecture "Symbolism in Dreams" in General Introduction to Psychoanalysis on some internet forum pages: alt.quotations, uk.politics.guns, talk.politics.guns, can.talk.guns , etc.


ETA: Actually I have read Freud extensively and he wasn't as far off as people have been led to believe, especially when viewed in the context of his being a pioneer in the field of psychology. Granted he was overly fixated on certain psychosexual matters, but far from a loon.

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VTNGNR wrote:

You could always just set up the date at the shooting range, that'll weed any anti's out quickly

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That was going to be my plan.

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SNIP Hi all, I have been lurking for quite a long time. I saw this post and registered just so I could put in my 2 cents, lol.

As the only woman ? here, I think that setting up your date at the shooting range would be your best bet. And, if it's someone like me, they will love the change from the old "dinner and a movie" routine

If she's up for going out to the range, then she's either pro-gun or open minded enough to learn what you have to teach her and that's a step in the right direction

I, personally, would not be "freaked out" or think a guy creepy or wierd for OCing on a first date, but, then again,I am not your usual lady :lol:

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Aberk wrote:

VTNGNR wrote:

You could always just set up the date at the shooting range, that'll weed any anti's out quickly

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That was going to be my plan.

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Hi all, I have been lurking for quite a long time. I saw this post and registered just so I could put in my 2 cents, lol.

As the only woman ? here, I think that setting up your date at the shooting range would be your best bet. And, if it's someone like me, they will love the change from the old "dinner and a movie" routine

If she's up for going out to the range, then she's either pro-gun or open minded enough to learn what you have to teach her and that's a step in the right direction

I, personally, would not be "freaked out" or think a guy creepy or wierd for OCing on a first date, but, then again,I am not your usual lady :lol:

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YellowHorse wrote:

SNIP Hi all, I have been lurking for quite a long time. I saw this post and registered just so I could put in my 2 cents, lol.

As the only woman ? here, I think that setting up your date at the shooting range would be your best bet. And, if it's someone like me, they will love the change from the old "dinner and a movie" routine

If she's up for going out to the range, then she's either pro-gun or open minded enough to learn what you have to teach her and that's a step in the right direction

I, personally, would not be "freaked out" or think a guy creepy or wierd for OCing on a first date, but, then again,I am not your usual lady :lol:

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Welcome to OCDO!!!

There are a few women, here. More are certainly welcome!

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Aberk wrote:

VTNGNR wrote:

You could always just set up the date at the shooting range, that'll weed any anti's out quickly

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That was going to be my plan.

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Hi all, I have been lurking for quite a long time. I saw this post and registered just so I could put in my 2 cents, lol.

As the only woman ? here, I think that setting up your date at the shooting range would be your best bet. And, if it's someone like me, they will love the change from the old "dinner and a movie" routine

If she's up for going out to the range, then she's either pro-gun or open minded enough to learn what you have to teach her and that's a step in the right direction

I, personally, would not be "freaked out" or think a guy creepy or wierd for OCing on a first date, but, then again,I am not your usual lady :lol:

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I asked my wife about what OP is asking and she said that she would want to know BEFORE that the Date that you carried so that she would know what to expect. She said that this is just out of respect. This way the person could open up with thrust from the beginning. Not "hidding" anything.

In other words DON'T waste yours or the other persons time and you will weed out from the beginning.

TJ

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UTOC-45-44 wrote:

I asked my wife about what OP is asking and she said that she would want to know BEFORE that the Date that you carried so that she would know what to expect. She said that this is just out of respect. This way the person could open up with thrust from the beginning. Not "hidding" anything.

In other words DON'T waste yours or the other persons time and you will weed out from the beginning.

TJ

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Huh-huh...huh-huh-huh... You said 'THRUST'...huh-huh-huh....

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