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    Just had a close call. On my way home from hanging out with a buddy.

    There is a car parked on the left facing oncoming traffic with the lights on. There are a number of cars parked on the left of the street as well. I see some peds and slow down so I don't plow through any drunks.

    A guy on the left side of the road puts his arms up almost like he is flexing his biceps but with his right hand making signs and had what looked to be a beer bottle in his left. He said some thing in a threatning tone while walking toward the car.

    By now I have unholstered and am rolling down the window so I can hear what is being said. Another guy comes out from behind another car and asks something like "whats going on?"

    I reply that the other guy is making threatning signs. "Naw man he just playin' with you." He said this because a Sherrif's officer was on the other side of the intersection.

    As I rolled through the light I pointed in the direction of the guys to the officer, and even though he saw me, he turned.

    I called non-emergency when I got home a few minutes later.

    Man that got the blood pumping! I was about ready to run the red light. I think this was a case where a sheriff's officer being in the right place at the right time may have saved someone's life, be that mine or his.

    More officers on the street is always a good thing, but I wouldn't trade it for having a weapon close at hand!!!

    My hands are still shaking a bit!

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    metricinch wrote:
    Just had a close call. On my way home from hanging out with a buddy.

    There is a car parked on the left facing oncoming traffic with the lights on. There are a number of cars parked on the left of the street as well. I see some peds and slow down so I don't plow through any drunks.

    A guy on the left side of the road puts his arms up almost like he is flexing his biceps but with his right hand making signs and had what looked to be a beer bottle in his left. He said some thing in a threatning tone while walking toward the car.

    By now I have unholstered and am rolling down the window so I can hear what is being said. Another guy comes out from behind another car and asks something like "whats going on?"

    I reply that the other guy is making threatning signs. "Naw man he just playin' with you." He said this because a Sherrif's officer was on the other side of the intersection.

    As I rolled through the light I pointed in the direction of the guys to the officer, and even though he saw me, he turned.

    I called non-emergency when I got home a few minutes later.

    Man that got the blood pumping! I was about ready to run the red light. I think this was a case where a sheriff's officer being in the right place at the right time may have saved someone's life, be that mine or his.

    More officers on the street is always a good thing, but I wouldn't trade it for having a weapon close at hand!!!

    My hands are still shaking a bit!
    I don't slow down for or talk toidiots, morons and drunks on the street.

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    you don't slow down for pedestrians? remind me not be on the streets when you are driving.

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    metricinch wrote:
    you don't slow down for pedestrians? remind me not be on the streets when you are driving.
    Nit wits waving gang sign with a beer in their handdo not qualify aspedestrians, they are either bangers or wannabes and in either case, the world will be a better place without them. You won't have needed to draw your weapon had you continued on your way and not rolled down your window to speak with them. You were inviting trouble rather than avoiding it. You need to rethink your tactics.

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    you don't slow down for pedestrians? remind me not be on the streets when you are driving.
    Nit wits waving gang sign with a beer in their handdo not qualify aspedestrians, they are either bangers or wannabes and in either case, the world will be a better place without them. You won't have needed to draw your weapon had you continued on your way and not rolled down your window to speak with them. You were inviting trouble rather than avoiding it. You need to rethink your tactics.
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    you guys are awesome!

    Thanks for all your support and understanding in what could have been a bad place.

    I really appreciate the creative criticisims about my lack of understanding tactics.

    I whish i could have you guys with me all the time, just incase I need to be prepared to just blast through an area with people in it of an unkown intent.

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    I am going to back to rebuilding my carb and letting you guys be tough on the internet.

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    metricinch wrote:
    you guys are awesome!

    Thanks for all your support and understanding in what could have been a bad place.

    I really appreciate the creative criticisims about my lack of understanding tactics.

    I whish i could have you guys with me all the time, just incase I need to be prepared to just blast through an area with people in it of an unkown intent.

    :quirky


    I am going to back to rebuilding my carb and letting you guys be tough on the internet.
    You, by your actions creatre a situation where you felt you needed to draw your weapon, before there was a real threat, there by brandishing your weapon. This aint' TV or some movie, this is real life and you created the situation by not ignoring them. Learn from your mistakes, don't get huffy about it.




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    where did you learn how to read? Same place you learned how to spell?

    did i once say i brandished?

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    I don't think that was brandishing at all, if the gun was unholstered and out of view, as mine would have surely been too.

    No judgements from me...I wasn't there. Getting jacked is not unheard of in this day and age.

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    Definately not brandishing if it was not shown or viewable in his hand by others.

    Main Entry: brandish
    1 :to shake or wave (as a weapon) menacingly
    2 :to exhibit in an ostentatious or aggressive manner
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

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    metricinch wrote:
    where did you learn how to read? Same place you learned how to spell?

    did i once say i brandished?
    You unholstered it and I know a guy that was charged with brandishing for that act alone. He drew the weapon and held it along side his leg muzzle down was all.

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    Bear 45/70 wrote:
    metricinch wrote:
    where did you learn how to read? Same place you learned how to spell?

    did i once say i brandished?
    You unholstered it and I know a guy that was charged with brandishing for that act alone. He drew the weapon and held it along side his leg muzzle down was all.
    Bear you should know that just because he was charged does not mean it actually was brandishing. Was he inside his car at the time?
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

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    where did you learn how to read? Same place you learned how to spell?

    did i once say i brandished?
    You unholstered it and I know a guy that was charged with brandishing for that act alone. He drew the weapon and held it along side his leg muzzle down was all.
    Bear you should know that just because he was charged does not mean it actually was brandishing. Was he inside his car at the time?
    Standing next to a tree in his yard where only 3 of the people present could see the gun and he was charged and plea bargained it down to 4th degree assault.

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    I don't know the exact circumstances of the incident but if all he did was unholster and hold it muzzle down next to his leg I think the assault 4 is a little out of line. Maybe the anticipatory of assault was more in line with it, but that may be far fetched also. Anyway a .270 violation or assault4 are the same level of offense.

    You can see the difference between these two incidents with the car being involved to keep no one from seeing the firearm, which is the requirement for a .270 violation. If no one sees it then there is no way for alarm to be warranted.
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

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    I went through something similar, no beer bottle, but two guys trying to fight with me on the way to the train @ Dearborn and Maynard on Friday afternoon.....had to chase both off with my OC spray......3 minutes later 6 cop cars go screaming past towards where they had been when I chased them off........wonder if these are the same guys.......:shock:

    Funny thing is there was an officer in his car right out in the street watching the whole thing, never stopped, never said anything......just random people in their cars were yelling at these guys while waiting for the light to "leave him alone", etc......I agree, I wouldn't trade my sidearm for a cop given the chance........

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    Bear 45/70 wrote:
    metricinch wrote:
    where did you learn how to read? Same place you learned how to spell?

    did i once say i brandished?
    You unholstered it and I know a guy that was charged with brandishing for that act alone. He drew the weapon and held it along side his leg muzzle down was all.
    In order for it to be brandishing it has to be possible for someone to SEE it. There's a huge difference between drawing while standing in the open and while inside your car, behind an opaque door.

    Also, you need to re-read the original post. There were multiple people in the street, AND a red light. Your advice would have landed metricinch in jail on multiple counts of aggravated assault and/or manslaughter, not to mention a moving violation.

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    swillden wrote:
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    metricinch wrote:
    where did you learn how to read? Same place you learned how to spell?

    did i once say i brandished?
    You unholstered it and I know a guy that was charged with brandishing for that act alone. He drew the weapon and held it along side his leg muzzle down was all.
    In order for it to be brandishing it has to be possible for someone to SEE it. There's a huge difference between drawing while standing in the open and while inside your car, behind an opaque door.

    Also, you need to re-read the original post. There were multiple people in the street, AND a red light. Your advice would have landed metricinch in jail on multiple counts of aggravated assault and/or manslaughter, not to mention a moving violation.
    Then because he drew before there was any real problem they could have nailed him for setting a trap. It's been done before.

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    Bear 45/70 wrote:
    You unholstered it and I know a guy that was charged with brandishing for that act alone. He drew the weapon and held it along side his leg muzzle down was all.
    Was he a SEAL too?
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    thebastidge wrote:
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    You unholstered it and I know a guy that was charged with brandishing for that act alone. He drew the weapon and held it along side his leg muzzle down was all.
    Was he a SEAL too?
    No ******* he was a neighbor. Chirst you guys are sure jackasses.

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    Bear 45/70 wrote:
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    metricinch wrote:
    where did you learn how to read? Same place you learned how to spell?

    did i once say i brandished?
    You unholstered it and I know a guy that was charged with brandishing for that act alone. He drew the weapon and held it along side his leg muzzle down was all.
    In order for it to be brandishing it has to be possible for someone to SEE it. There's a huge difference between drawing while standing in the open and while inside your car, behind an opaque door.

    Also, you need to re-read the original post. There were multiple people in the street, AND a red light. Your advice would have landed metricinch in jail on multiple counts of aggravated assault and/or manslaughter, not to mention a moving violation.
    Then because he drew before there was any real problem they could have nailed him for setting a trap. It's been done before.
    First, what trap was he setting?

    Second, what statute makes it illegal to "set a trap"?

    Third, does that statute have penalties that are worse than the aggravated assault and potential manslaughter that you advocated? Oh, and the moving violation.

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    metricinch wrote:
    Just had a close call. On my way home from hanging out with a buddy.

    There is a car parked on the left facing oncoming traffic with the lights on. There are a number of cars parked on the left of the street as well. I see some peds and slow down so I don't plow through any drunks.

    A guy on the left side of the road puts his arms up almost like he is flexing his biceps but with his right hand making signs and had what looked to be a beer bottle in his left. He said some thing in a threatning tone while walking toward the car.

    By now I have unholstered and am rolling down the window so I can hear what is being said. Another guy comes out from behind another car and asks something like "whats going on?"

    I reply that the other guy is making threatning signs. "Naw man he just playin' with you." He said this because a Sherrif's officer was on the other side of the intersection.

    As I rolled through the light I pointed in the direction of the guys to the officer, and even though he saw me, he turned.

    I called non-emergency when I got home a few minutes later.

    Man that got the blood pumping! I was about ready to run the red light. I think this was a case where a sheriff's officer being in the right place at the right time may have saved someone's life, be that mine or his.

    More officers on the street is always a good thing, but I wouldn't trade it for having a weapon close at hand!!!

    My hands are still shaking a bit!


    Why the hell do people on this board do stupid **** like this? Don't EVER roll your windows down in a situation like that. He's obviously intoxicated or crazy, so what he has to say to you doesn't matter.

    I'm also guessing that your civilian vehicle DOESN'T have bullet proof windows, so no need to roll them down should he decide to attack and you need to fire... shoot through the window.Aside from that, intent and ability to commit violence were implied by his manorisms.

    Stay in your car, keep you eye on the dirtbag, and MOVE when your light turns.

    Then call non-emergency.

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    Why the hell do people on this board do stupid **** like this? Don't EVER roll your windows down in a situation like that. He's obviously intoxicated or crazy, so what he has to say to you doesn't matter.

    I'm also guessing that your civilian vehicle DOESN'T have bullet proof windows, so no need to roll them down should he decide to attack and you need to fire... shoot through the window.Aside from that, intent and ability to commit violence were implied by his manorisms.

    Stay in your car, keep you eye on the dirtbag, and MOVE when your light turns.

    Then call non-emergency.

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    I didn't have to roll down my window, the drunk guy removed the glass for me.

    I had an encounter at a gas station a couple years ago. The gas station shared a parking lot with a bar. I was pumping gas when two drunk guys stumbled out of the bar. One of them picked up a traffic cone and tossed it onto the top of a car behind me. The girl in the car was scared. I finished pumping gas and got in my car as they were harassing the girl behind me. They lost interest and kept walking toward my car. I started the car and the guy started telling me that he was going to kick my ass and that he wanted me to get out of the car. I went to leave, but his buddy inadvertantly walked in front of my car, not realizing that his friend was starting this confrontation behind him. I had to stop moving so I didn't hit him. At this point I have done absolutely nothing to bring on this altercation. I didn't stare at them or say anything to them, or anything else that might have brought their attention to me. My window was only cracked a little, because my friend in the passenger seat was smoking. The guy told me to get out of the car again and wrapped his fingers around the top of the window. His friend had stepped out from in front of the car at this point, so I started to drive away, but this guy kept holding onto my window and jogged along with my car for a few feet. Not wanting to drag this guy into the street, for fear of being arrested for reckless driving or something else, I stopped the car, hoping he would let go of the window. He pulled on the window, shattering it andstumbling backwards, while covering me in glass, including putting a small piece into my eye (I got it out without damaging my eye, don't worry). At this point he was staring down the barrel of my 9mm, because I was affraid that he was about to pull me out of the window, and I don't like being pulled out of windows. He drunkenly sputtered "What are you going to do? Shoot me?" andtook a step toward me. I was about to answer his question, but there were gas pumps behind him, so I was a little concerned about rule number 4. Fortunately for me, his friend had realized what was happening at at just the right second, he grabbed the assailant by the shoulders and pulled him back. I floored it, and called the police.

    The 911 operator was retarded, so I flagged down a police officer who was passing. I explained what had just happened and he took off down the street to catch the drunks. He came back a few minutes later and asked me if I could come with him to identify the suspects, because they didn't make it very far.

    I got into his car and went with him a couple of blocks to a parking lot where other officers had the two in handcuffs, sitting on the curb. I identified them and he asked me if I wanted to press charges. I said yes but that only one of them had assaulted me, and asked if I could speak with them. He allowed it, but required that I leave my gun with him for the suspects' safety. In the police headlights I realized that I knew the second drunk guy (the one that hadn't assaulted me), because I used to be his neighbor. He was a decent guy, he just made some poor choices in friends. Anyway, as soon as I got out of the car the guy who broke my window was blubbering about how he didn't want to go to jail and he had a little girl at home. The guy was my age and I felt bad for him, having had a bad run in with the police myself a year before that. Against my better judgement I told him that I wouldn't press charges, but that he needed to replace my window. He didn't seem to remember what had just happened, so I refreshed his memory by telling him that his friend saved his life by pulling him away from the car, and that going to jail was the least of his worries. I left while the officers were telling him how he was lucky to be alive and lecturing him about how what he did was incredibly stupid. As the officer was driving me back to my car he asked me why I didn't just shoot him. I told him that I didn't know, but I was glad I didn't.

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    swillden wrote:
    Bear 45/70 wrote:
    swillden wrote:
    Bear 45/70 wrote:
    metricinch wrote:
    where did you learn how to read? Same place you learned how to spell?

    did i once say i brandished?
    You unholstered it and I know a guy that was charged with brandishing for that act alone. He drew the weapon and held it along side his leg muzzle down was all.
    In order for it to be brandishing it has to be possible for someone to SEE it. There's a huge difference between drawing while standing in the open and while inside your car, behind an opaque door.

    Also, you need to re-read the original post. There were multiple people in the street, AND a red light. Your advice would have landed metricinch in jail on multiple counts of aggravated assault and/or manslaughter, not to mention a moving violation.
    Then because he drew before there was any real problem they could have nailed him for setting a trap. It's been done before.
    First, what trap was he setting?

    Second, what statute makes it illegal to "set a trap"?

    Third, does that statute have penalties that are worse than the aggravated assault and potential manslaughter that you advocated? Oh, and the moving violation.
    What's the point, you ******** have decided he did nothing wrong and are goona support his moronic actions regardless of the facts.

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    Bear 45/70 wrote:
    What's the point, you ******** have decided he did nothing wrong and are goona support his moronic actions regardless of the facts.
    Funny, the first three words are exactly what I've been asking myself.

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