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Lawyer's comments are directly advserse to well know S. Ct. case law, see Kolender v. Lawson, 461 U.S. 352 (1983), and the statements of Lacawanna County District Attorney. See http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum46/10891.html.
I guess this lawyer thinks that the new order has already arrived.
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http://www.thetimes-tribune.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19699823&BRD=2185&PAG=461&dept_id=592269&rfi=6
Gun-toting battle stays heated
05/18/2008
Gary Roberts sped into the parking lot of Old Country Buffet in Dickson City and rolled his white Toyota Scion up to the curb.
His driver’s side window down, he leaned out, revealing a buzz cut, key-lime-pie colored shirt and matching tie.
“Are you with the pros or the antis?” he asked a group of similar-looking folks outside the restaurant.
A member of the Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association — a Web-based Second Amendment advocacy group — Mr. Roberts, of Moscow, told the other members outside Old Country Buffet there was a slight change in plans.
The rendezvous point was changed to nearby Charlie Brown’s Steakhouse, after Old Country Buffet management posted a sign announcing firearms are prohibited on the property.
Mr. Roberts and other members were not about to surrender their guns, no matter how hungry they were.
This dinner meeting came after a May 9 clash between Dickson City police and a dozen or so association members who opted to dine out with their guns out.
Although this may or may not be protected by the U.S. Constitution, two part-time police officers received complaints about armed people at the restaurant and had a responsibility to check it out.
“Of the 37 years I’ve been in law enforcement, I’ve never seen — aside from law enforcement — anyone in our restaurants or in our malls carrying out in the open,” said Dickson City Police Chief William Stadnitski. “I don’t know why they picked Dickson City. We don’t know what these people’s intentions are.”
What both sides seem to agree upon is that the officers escorted the armed patrons outside and asked for identification. Association member Richard Banks was briefly detained while police confiscated a concealed weapon, and police had apparently asked one of the members who started videotaping the incident to cease and desist.
The exact details of the confrontation, however, are unclear, since association members declined to comment on the advice of an attorney, and the police report was not available in time for this article.
As word of the confrontation spread, gun-rights activists organized and went to work telephoning and alerting the local media, typing away on message boards and sounding the drumbeat that led to Tuesday’s dinner meeting and a trip to a Dickson City Borough Council meeting afterward.
So after Mr. Roberts and others reconnoitered on friendly turf — Charlie Brown’s corporate spokeswoman confirmed that the company does not ban firearms on its property — he stepped out of his vehicle with a gun on his hip. He was joined by fellow gun lovers wearing similar accessories.
A Dickson City police cruiser was parked in the rear parking lot, but the patrolman stayed inside.
Although citizens can “open carry” without any registration or permits, Philadelphia attorney Jon Mirowitz said that if a person packing in public is asked by police for identification, he or she must produce it.
Mr. Mirowitz is a lecturer on gun laws for the Pennsylvania Bar Institute, a legal education arm of the Pennsylvania Bar Association.
“It doesn’t necessarily have to be a driver’s license, but it has to say who they are and where they are from,” he said. “We are not allowed to be anonymous anymore.”
In the end, the important thing was that no one got hurt, except maybe the feelings of a few gun-toting restaurant patrons.
Lawyer's comments are directly advserse to well know S. Ct. case law, see Kolender v. Lawson, 461 U.S. 352 (1983), and the statements of Lacawanna County District Attorney. See http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum46/10891.html.
I guess this lawyer thinks that the new order has already arrived.
--
http://www.thetimes-tribune.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19699823&BRD=2185&PAG=461&dept_id=592269&rfi=6
Gun-toting battle stays heated
05/18/2008
Gary Roberts sped into the parking lot of Old Country Buffet in Dickson City and rolled his white Toyota Scion up to the curb.
His driver’s side window down, he leaned out, revealing a buzz cut, key-lime-pie colored shirt and matching tie.
“Are you with the pros or the antis?” he asked a group of similar-looking folks outside the restaurant.
A member of the Pennsylvania Firearm Owners Association — a Web-based Second Amendment advocacy group — Mr. Roberts, of Moscow, told the other members outside Old Country Buffet there was a slight change in plans.
The rendezvous point was changed to nearby Charlie Brown’s Steakhouse, after Old Country Buffet management posted a sign announcing firearms are prohibited on the property.
Mr. Roberts and other members were not about to surrender their guns, no matter how hungry they were.
This dinner meeting came after a May 9 clash between Dickson City police and a dozen or so association members who opted to dine out with their guns out.
Although this may or may not be protected by the U.S. Constitution, two part-time police officers received complaints about armed people at the restaurant and had a responsibility to check it out.
“Of the 37 years I’ve been in law enforcement, I’ve never seen — aside from law enforcement — anyone in our restaurants or in our malls carrying out in the open,” said Dickson City Police Chief William Stadnitski. “I don’t know why they picked Dickson City. We don’t know what these people’s intentions are.”
What both sides seem to agree upon is that the officers escorted the armed patrons outside and asked for identification. Association member Richard Banks was briefly detained while police confiscated a concealed weapon, and police had apparently asked one of the members who started videotaping the incident to cease and desist.
The exact details of the confrontation, however, are unclear, since association members declined to comment on the advice of an attorney, and the police report was not available in time for this article.
As word of the confrontation spread, gun-rights activists organized and went to work telephoning and alerting the local media, typing away on message boards and sounding the drumbeat that led to Tuesday’s dinner meeting and a trip to a Dickson City Borough Council meeting afterward.
So after Mr. Roberts and others reconnoitered on friendly turf — Charlie Brown’s corporate spokeswoman confirmed that the company does not ban firearms on its property — he stepped out of his vehicle with a gun on his hip. He was joined by fellow gun lovers wearing similar accessories.
A Dickson City police cruiser was parked in the rear parking lot, but the patrolman stayed inside.
Although citizens can “open carry” without any registration or permits, Philadelphia attorney Jon Mirowitz said that if a person packing in public is asked by police for identification, he or she must produce it.
Mr. Mirowitz is a lecturer on gun laws for the Pennsylvania Bar Institute, a legal education arm of the Pennsylvania Bar Association.
“It doesn’t necessarily have to be a driver’s license, but it has to say who they are and where they are from,” he said. “We are not allowed to be anonymous anymore.”
In the end, the important thing was that no one got hurt, except maybe the feelings of a few gun-toting restaurant patrons.