swillden
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This happened a couple of weeks ago, but I've been traveling and just haven't gotten around to posting about it.
I went into Wal-mart in Riverdale on Saturday afternoon (May 10th). I normally avoid doing that, with or without a gun, because the store is just too busy. This time, though, I didn't have a choice. It made me a little nervous because it was the first time I'd OC'd in a really crowded place.
As I was walking in, the greeter stopped me. I've talked to this particular greeter once before. She didn't hassle me, but she was clearly nervous about my firearm, asking the usual "Are you a police officer?", etc. Non-event.
This time, though, she said that she "couldn't let me go in", that I'd have to talk with a manager. I said that was fine and she called an assistant manager over. The assistant manager asked me if I had a permit and I told her that I did, though it wasn't necessary because a permit allows you to conceal and I wasn't concealing. She just nodded and told me that because people with guns make some of the customers nervous, it's store policy that anyone entering with a gun has to talk to a member of management so they know what's going on in case they get a complaint. I said "Okay", waiting for something more. When it was clear that was that, I thanked her (Not sure what for! Just polite habit, I guess), and went on in to do my shopping.
I was confused. The manager didn't tell me I couldn't carry, didn't ask me any questions other than the one about the permit, and seemed to accept my point that it didn't matter whether I had a permit or not. Next time I get the permit question, I'm just going to respond that I don't need one to carry openly.
So, is the idea maybe to discourage OC by making it annoying? I didn't have to wait long for the manager -- only about 30 seconds -- but I can see it working if I have a delay every time I enter the store. It's possible that the approach even falls within Wal-mart guidelines; the argument being that it doesn't disallow OC, but just ensures that the on-duty managers are aware.
This happened a couple of weeks ago, but I've been traveling and just haven't gotten around to posting about it.
I went into Wal-mart in Riverdale on Saturday afternoon (May 10th). I normally avoid doing that, with or without a gun, because the store is just too busy. This time, though, I didn't have a choice. It made me a little nervous because it was the first time I'd OC'd in a really crowded place.
As I was walking in, the greeter stopped me. I've talked to this particular greeter once before. She didn't hassle me, but she was clearly nervous about my firearm, asking the usual "Are you a police officer?", etc. Non-event.
This time, though, she said that she "couldn't let me go in", that I'd have to talk with a manager. I said that was fine and she called an assistant manager over. The assistant manager asked me if I had a permit and I told her that I did, though it wasn't necessary because a permit allows you to conceal and I wasn't concealing. She just nodded and told me that because people with guns make some of the customers nervous, it's store policy that anyone entering with a gun has to talk to a member of management so they know what's going on in case they get a complaint. I said "Okay", waiting for something more. When it was clear that was that, I thanked her (Not sure what for! Just polite habit, I guess), and went on in to do my shopping.
I was confused. The manager didn't tell me I couldn't carry, didn't ask me any questions other than the one about the permit, and seemed to accept my point that it didn't matter whether I had a permit or not. Next time I get the permit question, I'm just going to respond that I don't need one to carry openly.
So, is the idea maybe to discourage OC by making it annoying? I didn't have to wait long for the manager -- only about 30 seconds -- but I can see it working if I have a delay every time I enter the store. It's possible that the approach even falls within Wal-mart guidelines; the argument being that it doesn't disallow OC, but just ensures that the on-duty managers are aware.