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Open Carry in Mississippi

tarzan1888

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mark edward marchiafava wrote:
Other than me,is anyone aware of the legal doctrine of "void for vagueness?" If it's this confusing, it should be null and void.

I am and I think you are right in that it could apply here.



"Void for vagueness is a legal concept in American constitutional law, whereby a civil statute or, more commonly, a criminal statute is adjudged unconstitutional when it is so vague that persons "of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application," as the United States Supreme Court articulated in Connally v General Construction Co., 269 US 385, 391 (1926). A statute is void for vagueness when: 1) it is unclear what persons fall within its scope, 2) what conduct is forbidden, and/or 3) what punishment may be imposed. Due process requires that a law be reasonably definite as to what persons and conduct are covered as well as the punishment for any violation. In determining whether a law is void for vagueness, courts have imposed the following tests: 1) does the law give fair notice to those persons subject to it? 2) does the law guard against arbitrary and discriminatory enforcement? and 3) can the law be enforced with sufficient "breathing room" for First Amendment rights?"



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Void_for_vagueness



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Subsection (13) bans the carry of a concealed pistol or revolver into the passenger terminal of any airport.

(1) What is a passenger terminal? The secured area? The whole building, including baggage claim or any restaurants or shopsin the unsecured area?

(2) Does this law ban OPEN carry in airports?

Your help is much appreciated.
 

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Malum Prohibitum wrote:
Subsection (13) bans the carry of a concealed pistol or revolver into the passenger terminal of any airport.

(1) What is a passenger terminal? The secured area? The whole building, including baggage claim or any restaurants or shopsin the unsecured area?

(2) Does this law ban OPEN carry in airports?

Your help is much appreciated.
Does anybody know about number 1?
 

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my best guess would be any area after the security gate that any non-passenger is prohibited. so the lobby, baggage claim etc would be ok but that is just my guess
 

Malum Prohibitum

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Seif5034 wrote:
my best guess would be any area after the security gate that any non-passenger is prohibited. so the lobby, baggage claim etc would be ok but that is just my guess


Thanks. That is exactly what I am trying to figure out. Where are all the Mississippi people?

For now we have marked Mississippi as red.



http://www.georgiacarry.org/cms/about/prohibited-places/?data_file=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.georgiacarry.org%2Fcms%2Fmap+data%2Fairports.xml&title=Airports
 

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Malum Prohibitum wrote:
Where are all the Mississippi people?
Still trying to get answers on the questions raised here. We know what the constitution and the MSCODE say. What we don't have are answers from our legislature or courts as to why the laws are contradictory. Our LEOs are as confused about the laws as everyone else which ought to be a strong inducement for our legislature and courts to make it clear but sadly that doesn't seem to be the case.
 
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As a Lousianian, I'm not able to vote in Mississippi, but I can make phone calls there. I found a rep by the last name of "Snowden" who seemed somewhat receptive. My contention is the state statutes which obviously conflict are in need of being struck down via a declaratory motion.
 
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