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    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,356710,00.html

    Tuesday , May 20, 2008
    By Sara Bonisteel

    An act of bravery to defend a co-worker has cost a Minnesota gas-station attendant his job.

    Mark Beverly, an overnight shift supervisor at a SuperAmerica in Roseville, Minn., was fired in March after he jumped on a masked robber who he believed was attacking a fellow employee.

    SuperAmerica said he violated company policy when he came to his colleague's aid in the early morning of March 26. So instead of accolades, Beverly got the boot.

    Adding insult to injury, Beverly — who is still looking for another job — has been denied unemployment benefits. He will appeal that decision on June 5.

    The trouble began around 3 a.m. when Beverly was cleaning the bathroom and his female co-worker was behind the cash register. Beverly said he heard her scream, so he ran out and saw a robber wearing a blue-stocking cap jostling with her.

    "It looked like he was hurting her, so I jumped on him," Beverly said. "I just tried to bang him on the counter a couple of times."

    After a tussle, he said, the robber regained his footing and looked as if he was going to pull out a weapon. Beverly said the man told him, "Don't be a hero," before fleeing the store with about $15.

    Beverly called police and reviewed security tapes with his managers before completing his shift. "Everything was fine," he said.

    The next day, however, he was fired for violating company policy.

    Marathon Petroleum Company, the owner of the SuperAmerica chain, said Beverly was told what to do in the company handbook — which advises employees to "cooperate: don't argue, resist or attack the robber" — and through a computer-based training program Beverly was required to complete when he was hired.

    "He endangered himself and her, and that’s why we have the policy," said Linda Casey, a Marathon spokeswoman. "And we have enforced it with other employees, not just with him."

    "I just thought it was wrong, that's all," said Beverly, who had worked at SuperAmerica for just over a year. "You're not really trained for a robbery, and that was the first robbery I have ever been in in my life."

    Capt. Rick Mathwig of the Roseville Police Department said authorities advise people not to take action when faced with a robbery.

    "When you start resisting at some way shape or form, the suspect who may not have intended on using the weapon that he or she came with may use it intentionally or unintentionally when faced with a conflict," he said.

    Roseville police have listed the case as inactive as they have not been able to identify the robber. The only image of him is partial profile and his face is obscured by the stocking cap, Mathwig said.

    The security tape did not show the female co-worker struggling with the robber over the cash-register drawer, Casey said.

    "The female employee was never attacked," she said. The robber reached in and grabbed cash out of the drawer.

    "We have a statement from both [Beverly] and the female employee," Casey said. "Neither one of them say anything about her being attacked, hurt or anything, and the video we have substantiates it."

    Beverly said that from his vantage point, he thought she was being attacked.
    "With both of them so close it looked — from the angle that I was at — it looked like she was being attacked," he said.

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    imperialism2024 wrote:
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,356710,00.html

    Tuesday , May 20, 2008
    By Sara Bonisteel

    An act of bravery to defend a co-worker has cost a Minnesota gas-station attendant his job.

    Mark Beverly, an overnight shift supervisor at a SuperAmerica in Roseville, Minn., was fired in March after he jumped on a masked robber who he believed was attacking a fellow employee.

    SuperAmerica said he violated company policy when he came to his colleague's aid in the early morning of March 26. So instead of accolades, Beverly got the boot.

    Adding insult to injury, Beverly — who is still looking for another job — has been denied unemployment benefits. He will appeal that decision on June 5.

    The trouble began around 3 a.m. when Beverly was cleaning the bathroom and his female co-worker was behind the cash register. Beverly said he heard her scream, so he ran out and saw a robber wearing a blue-stocking cap jostling with her.

    "It looked like he was hurting her, so I jumped on him," Beverly said. "I just tried to bang him on the counter a couple of times."

    After a tussle, he said, the robber regained his footing and looked as if he was going to pull out a weapon. Beverly said the man told him, "Don't be a hero," before fleeing the store with about $15.

    Beverly called police and reviewed security tapes with his managers before completing his shift. "Everything was fine," he said.

    The next day, however, he was fired for violating company policy.

    Marathon Petroleum Company, the owner of the SuperAmerica chain, said Beverly was told what to do in the company handbook — which advises employees to "cooperate: don't argue, resist or attack the robber" — and through a computer-based training program Beverly was required to complete when he was hired.

    "He endangered himself and her, and that’s why we have the policy," said Linda Casey, a Marathon spokeswoman. "And we have enforced it with other employees, not just with him."

    "I just thought it was wrong, that's all," said Beverly, who had worked at SuperAmerica for just over a year. "You're not really trained for a robbery, and that was the first robbery I have ever been in in my life."

    Capt. Rick Mathwig of the Roseville Police Department said authorities advise people not to take action when faced with a robbery.

    "When you start resisting at some way shape or form, the suspect who may not have intended on using the weapon that he or she came with may use it intentionally or unintentionally when faced with a conflict," he said.

    Roseville police have listed the case as inactive as they have not been able to identify the robber. The only image of him is partial profile and his face is obscured by the stocking cap, Mathwig said.

    The security tape did not show the female co-worker struggling with the robber over the cash-register drawer, Casey said.

    "The female employee was never attacked," she said. The robber reached in and grabbed cash out of the drawer.

    "We have a statement from both [Beverly] and the female employee," Casey said. "Neither one of them say anything about her being attacked, hurt or anything, and the video we have substantiates it."

    Beverly said that from his vantage point, he thought she was being attacked.
    "With both of them so close it looked — from the angle that I was at — it looked like she was being attacked," he said.
    If someone ever gets hurt or killed because of that redarded policy, I hope they get sued out of existence.
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    No Good deed is allowed to be unpunished.........:X

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    Capt. Rick Mathwig of the Roseville Police Department said authorities advise people not to take action when faced with a robbery.
    So we should just give criminals free reign over all of our ****? I beg to differ, and I'll be damned if I'm gonna sit there and do nothing when I feel somebody else in the immediate vicinity is in danger of death or serious injury. Screw Marathon for forbidding their employee's from defending themselves. I am hereby boycotting Marathon.

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    Stories like this make me fuckin sick.

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    I would recommend filing a lawsuit against the company in such case. I'm not sure about the employment laws from state to state and they may have a right to fire you for any reason. However, most states have laws relating to health and safety in the workplace. I believe there is also a federal law in such case. A policy that would prohibit you from saving a woman's life who is being violently attacked by a criminal should clearly be violating health and safety in the workplace. Such individual should talk to an attorney and see about taking action. Generally company policy cannot supersede state law. If he can prove in court that this company policy created a danger to his safety at work, he could get a judgment against them.

    I have always believed that any private property that prohibits firearms or other weapons should be liable for your safety. If more people started standing up to this BS and filing lawsuits, things might change. Companies traditionally argue in court when violence happens on their property that they cannot possibly be there to protect every individual at every time. While that is true, when you have policies that require customers and employees to leave their weapons off the property and then tell employees that they cannot even so much as use their own body to defend someone's life or their own, they are overtly creating an unsafe environment which in my opinion is a liability issue. You don't tell someone you are not responsible for their safety and then prohibit them from defending themselves at the same time. Either you are allowed to defend yourself or they are liable. Period.

    Not that I'm advocating law-breaking, but notice how most violence happens in weapons free zones. Workplaces, schools, malls, churches, and bars tend to all be weapons free zones yet this is where shooting sprees happen the majority of the time. Do you honestly think that if a person violated the law and carried a gun in a prohibited area and saved dozens of lives (or even just one) from a madman or other criminal that any jury on this planet would convict them of a gun law? If someone on 9/11 or at Virginia Tech had been packing a gun and saved a bunch of lives, the entire nation would oppose charging them of a crime as they would be a hero. People say that guns shouldn't be allowed in bars because of drunks yet bars are probably the most dangerous establishments of any. Do you honestly think that fights would happen often if half of the patrons were packing pistols openly? Even most drunks are not drunk enough to start something with an armed individual especially if they are surrounded by them. An armed society is a polite society. Need I say more.



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    I would recommend filing a lawsuit against the company in such case. I'm not sure about the employment laws from state to state and they may have a right to fire you for any reason. However, most states have laws relating to health and safety in the workplace. I believe there is also a federal law in such case. A policy that would prohibit you from saving a woman's life who is being violently attacked by a criminal should clearly be violating health and safety in the workplace. Such individual should talk to an attorney and see about taking action. Generally company policy cannot supersede state law. If he can prove in court that this company policy created a danger to his safety at work, he could get a judgment against them.

    I have always believed that any private property that prohibits firearms or other weapons should be liable for your safety. If more people started standing up to this BS and filing lawsuits, things might change. Companies traditionally argue in court when violence happens on their property that they cannot possibly be there to protect every individual at every time. While that is true, when you have policies that require customers and employees to leave their weapons off the property and then tell employees that they cannot even so much as use their own body to defend someone's life or their own, they are overtly creating an unsafe environment which in my opinion is a liability issue. You don't tell someone you are not responsible for their safety and then prohibit them from defending themselves at the same time. Either you are allowed to defend yourself or they are liable. Period.

    Not that I'm advocating law-breaking, but notice how most violence happens in weapons free zones. Workplaces, schools, malls, churches, and bars tend to all be weapons free zones yet this is where shooting sprees happen the majority of the time. Do you honestly think that if a person violated the law and carried a gun in a prohibited area and saved dozens of lives (or even just one) from a madman or other criminal that any jury on this planet would convict them of a gun law? If someone on 9/11 or at Virginia Tech had been packing a gun and saved a bunch of lives, the entire nation would oppose charging them of a crime as they would be a hero. People say that guns shouldn't be allowed in bars because of drunks yet bars are probably the most dangerous establishments of any. Do you honestly think that fights would happen often if half of the patrons were packing pistols openly? Even most drunks are not drunk enough to start something with an armed individual especially if they are surrounded by them. An armed society is a polite society. Need I say more

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    HEY good news!!!! Anyone of us can now walk into any Marathon gas station, unarmed and demand the money in the cash drawer. The employees surely have heard about this by now so, to keep from getting fired, will just hand you the money without a hassle. Not even armed robbery as there is no need because the employees are to offer no resistence. Don't think of it as a robbery, but rather, a withdrawl from a criminal protection zone trust account.

    If robbers were smarter and paid more attention to the news, we could count on Marathon/SuperAmerica being the most robbed gas station chain in the nation in 3...2..1...


    "He endangered himself and her, and that’s why we have the policy," said Linda Casey, a Marathon spokeswoman. "And we have enforced it with other employees, not just with him.""
    Gotcha - please send out a pic of yourself and any closer female family members. We do not intend you or anyone else any harm, it is just that we want to be able to identify you and your family so that we do not accidently defend you our yours if one of you is being beaten, raped or otherwise sexually assaulted as we could endanger you by doing so which clearly would upset you.

    "I just thought it was wrong, that's all," said Beverly, who had worked at SuperAmerica for just over a year. "You're not really trained for a robbery, and that was the first robbery I have ever been in in my life."
    If I had a job opening to offer Beverly I would. Sounds like the kind of man I want working for me.

    "Adding insult to injury, Beverly — who is still looking for another job — has been denied unemployment benefits. He will appeal that decision on June 5."
    This is wrong! Wrong, wrong, wrong. Immoral and unethical!!

    "Capt. Rick Mathwig of the Roseville Police Department said authorities advise people not to take action when faced with a robbery. "When you start resisting at some way shape or form, the suspect who may not have intended on using the weapon that he or she came with may use it intentionally or unintentionally when faced with a conflict," he said."
    Why do you think that criminals have become progressively bolder in our society? Maybe it has something to do with ***** police captains giving them advise to be utter pussies and put up with any theft or indignity. A police captain should have full knowledge of the multitude of cases wherein employees and customers complied and were then executed by the robber(s) for their compliance. Is that what you tell your wife and daughters Rick? Just lay back and let the bad guy have what he wants - if you fight back or cause confilct with the bad guy he may intentionally or unintentionally use a weapon. Just lay back and accept the rape, we have medical insurance. And as long as everything is insured there is not reason to make a big deal about it. *******!
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    This has nothing to do with OC.

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    A similar case was made against 7-11 when en employee was fired for grabbing the bobbers gun - the employee prevailed i think, at least in getting the W. Va. S. Ct. to say that the right to self defense trumps the at will employment doctrine. See anti gun legal blogger at http://legalweblog.blogspot.com/2005...l-getting.html.

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    this is the tales of self defense section metal chris.

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