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    Seems the our "president in the making" has done it again.

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...p;pageId=65448

    Go to this WorldNetDaily link and watch the video. Hell, even I knew this was a fraud because I learned in high school that the Soviets liberated Auschwitz.. not the Americans. Actually, the Germans received orders to pull up stakes and move the remaining "prisoners" out of the camp before the Russians got there. They also blew up the gas chambers and crematoriums, though they didn't do a very thorough job.

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    I'm not a big fan of WorldNetDaily, but unless his dear uncle was, in fact, in the Red Army, they nailed him on that.

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    Could it be that he is simply relating a story told to him as a boy, without bothering to check if his relatives were telling the truth? There are a lot of people that really don't know their history.

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    FogRider wrote:
    Could it be that he is simply relating a story told to him as a boy, without bothering to check if his relatives were telling the truth? There are a lot of people that really don't know their history.
    Perhaps, but I should think that he at least received a rudamentary primary and secondary education and learned these things.. I did. And I should also think that were I running for an elected office, I would want to make sure that if I were to utter any such statements, there was some measure of truth to them.

    Seems to me that he was trying to make points with veterans and screwed up.

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    Nah, turns out he just remembered wrong, it was actually Buchenwald. I got it from here:

    http://minx.cc/?post=265142

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    He also made a point of saying a while back that he would meet with our enemies "without any preconditions", implying that Bush was too rigid. Obama said that other presidents, like FDR did that....which is patently absurd. FDR never met with Hitler, Mussolini or Tojo, and the only "precondition" he ever stated was "unconditional surrender". An editorial recently suggested Obama was thinking of the famous Yalta Conference photo with FDR, Churchill and Stalin, but not realizing Stalin was then our ally, not an "enemy". He needs some remedial history lessons.

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    Oh, it gets worse:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR8YaR3JEkE&e
    It begins:
    Barack: "On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in the audience here today -- our sense of patriotism is particularly strong."

    And in response to some comments from McCain:
    "Obama's camp declined to hit back, with spokesman Bill Burton saying "Memorial Day is a day to honor our nation's veterans, not a day for political posturing.""

    As many commentators have asked today, um, then what is the purpose of Veterans' Day.

    He isn't ready to lead a boy scout troop let alone this nation.

    At what point does a series of "misremembering" become perverication? Whatever that point is, I think we have reached and surpased it.
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    SouthernBoy wrote:
    Perhaps, but I should think that he at least received a rudamentary primary and secondary education and learned these things.. I did. And I should also think that were I running for an elected office, I would want to make sure that if I were to utter any such statements, there was some measure of truth to them.

    Seems to me that he was trying to make points with veterans and screwed up.
    You might be, and probably are, right. I'm just to nice of a guy for my own good and don't like jumping to conclusions when it makes someone look bad.

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    On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in the audience here today -- our sense of patriotism is particularly strong.
    Not that I like Obama or anything, but he *might* have been referring to the wounded, still doesn't make much sense, but you know.... Maybe he saw an amputee in uniform and figured it happened in combat? :P


    And in response to some comments from McCain:

    "Obama's camp declined to hit back, with spokesman Bill Burton saying "Memorial Day is a day to honor our nation's veterans, not a day for political posturing.""
    Here I'm assuming he simply thinks of the fallen as being veterans, but again I'm probably giving him too much credit.


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    If this insignificant mistake is all that we have on Obama, then we might as well pack up and go home.

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    John wrote:
    If this insignificant mistake is all that we have on Obama, then we might as well pack up and go home.
    +1

    It seems that people like to point out insignificant, irrelevant things when trying to discredit BO...such as pointing out his middle name, and the picture of him wearing the native garb of some Arab country.

    Not that my opinion of him is anything but low, but the nitpicking is getting old fast.

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    Or the fact that he doesn't wear one of those tacky American Flag pins.

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    Hey now, that's a big deal.

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    My developing concern is that Obama's "gaffs" are now a pattern, and they are starting to not appear as gaffs but as intentional distortions or exagerations. While one or two taken alone are not a big deal, a pattern of public statements by someone who wants to be POTUS which show either a willingness to continuously make erroneous statements, spout half-truths as utter truth, to exaggerate or to outright lie, depending on which categories your opinion places his various comments, is troubling.

    Even more troubling is his lack of attention to detail. He blows off his "mistatements" about his great-uncle as minor. But then he blows off every mistake he makes from not knowing the name of the town he is in, to not knowing what Memorial Day is memorializing, to typical white people comments, as minor. But the devil is in the details. I didn't like Obama politically at the beginning of this because he is a socialist and IMO his policies are diametrically oppossed to a free nation and to the rights protected in the constitution. But now I am starting to not like the man as I think he plays fast and loose with the truth, further leading me to not trust him as a man.
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    I do think what you've pointed out is worth more consideration. It may in fact indicate a willingness to bend the truth in order to gain more votes/support from people who "don't care about the little details" but who "identify" with his "overall point." Many will never realize that what he said was not true, and he may bend the truth in order to make his statement more understandable to the masses. For instance, with the auschwitz thing he may have mentioned it because not as many people have heard of the real camp where his great uncle was. This could certainly indicate a problem in the making and a willingness to lie about things he considers to be minor. It will be interesting to see how and if these types of statements change over time.

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    The 'gaffe' statements are memes that he is introducing into the demotic consciousness under cover of his 'forgetfullness' and excused by the lamestream media.

    If he remains in the public eye then the memes will be repeated until they become an issue, "What, you must remember that he introduced this during his campaign."

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    FogRider wrote:
    Could it be that he is simply relating a story told to him as a boy, without bothering to check if his relatives were telling the truth? There are a lot of people that really don't know their history.
    If he doesn't know THAT history, he needs to demand a refund from the colleges he attended. I don't think he went to public school in Chicago, so he doesn't have THAT excuse.
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    I wasn't picking on Obama particularly - it's just that I've heard that particular "misstatement" before in connection with American GIs liberating Auschwitz, and I find it annoying. It's no tribute to the people who did fight and sacrifice and die to get the history wrong.

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    After Hillary won KY a few weeks ago, Obama was asked why he thought she won. He said that he didn't spend much time there and that what with Hillary being from Arkansas and being so close to KY, she was bound to win some of those middle states that are closer to AK. Get this guy a MAP!

    He went to Harvard IIRC. He wasn't to be POTUS. He does not even know that IL borders KY for about 100 miles, while the closest point in AR to KY is about 100 miles away. IL and KY do a LOT of commerce (as an IL state senator he should know that as well but apparently he wasn't paying attention then either). KY and AR very little in comparison. Shouldn't you know, as a former state senator and now federal senator from IL which states border yours and which states are primary trading partners? He doesn't know. He doesn't know where anything in IL is outside of Chicago and Lake Michigan.

    That myopic view of the nation is a problem. His continued gaffs/mistatements/exaggerations/lies creating a pattern of behavior is a problem. This pattern of behavior appears to be a lack of character which is a problem. His nanny-statism and socialism are a problem. His gun banning and confiscation goals are a problem. His race-baiting, "typical white person" view of America is a problem. His high tax plan which will likely put thousands of small businesses out of business in an already down economy is a problem. His support for inefficiently burning food for energy is a problem. His stance to continue refusing access to drill our largest oil and natural gas fields and to support the EPA in continuing it's 30+ years of blocking the construction of a new oil refinery is a problem.

    Actually, the only thing about Barack that is NOT a problem is the color of his skin, which is the only thing that the media tells the world is the reason white conservatives and libertarians don't want to vote for him.

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    John wrote:
    If this insignificant mistake is all that we have on Obama, then we might as well pack up and go home.
    How bout the fact that he's a socialist, gun-grabbing elitist? That seems more than enough for me.

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    Weak 9mm wrote:
    Not that I like Obama or anything, but he *might* have been referring to the wounded, still doesn't make much sense, but you know.... Maybe he saw an amputee in uniform and figured it happened in combat? :P
    Here I'm assuming he simply thinks of the fallen as being veterans, but again I'm probably giving him too much credit.
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    All I am going to say is that if ANY republican past or present had made any of these blunders, he would never hear the end of It.



    Obama's record speaks for its self. We don't need to worry about these little blunders and the more we do the more we look like democrats.



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    DopaVash wrote:
    John wrote:
    If this insignificant mistake is all that we have on Obama, then we might as well pack up and go home.
    How bout the fact that he's a socialist, gun-grabbing elitist? That seems more than enough for me.
    I'm with you there, but it seems the newest trend is to ignore the issues and pick on Obama for stupid piddly crap. You're right that we need to focus on the issues, and if we do...oh nevermind it doesn't matter. Either way the next POTUS is going to suck.

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    Two reasons not to go near Obama.

    A. He is a Marxist / Socialist

    B. The Supreme Court of the United States. He would, no doubt in my being, bring to SCOTUS, leftist - activist judges. All we need is another Ginsburg.

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    Cut him some slack, maybe hes just another product of American public education. Hell, if I wanted to know any details of WWII, WWI or even the Civil War I had to go read them myself. My class was only focused on the social effects that war had on the country and other such socialist crap. The American military heroes were never mentioned. The most we learned about the military units was about the first women pilots and integrated infantries.

    And this was in an Advanced Placement HS course for college credit.

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    deepdiver, AK is the abbreviation for Alaska, AR is Arkansas.

    OK, now for the fact that NEEDS to be noticed; Obama is from Chicago, the most corrupt political machine in the country, if not the known world. That is the most important thing anyone should know about Obama, But yes, he does play fast and loose with the facts, just like Hiltlery and

    every OTHER POLITICIAN anywhere, anytime, all the time. It is past time to clean up the snakepit we call Washington D.C. Politicians DO NOT have your best interests at heart, just POWER, AS MUCH AS THEY CAN GRAB and that is the bottom line. To them, we are just a commodity, a resource, to be used until you are used up, and then discarded like yesterdays trash. Born Free, taxed into servitude. Civics lesson over, return to your regularly scheduled programming now.





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