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    With the avid anti gun Kennedy on the way out I got to thinking What If...


    There had been no machine gun ban / freeze (no class III requirement)....


    There had been no Assignations hence no 1968 gun law...


    Where would be be today? How big of a threat would the anti gun crowd be? Think of it and all the things that happened that would not be....

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    Your theory is flawed, if there had been more Kennedys around there most certainly would have been more assignations.
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Assignations

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    ROFL

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    Sheldon wrote:
    With the avid anti gun Kennedy on the way out I got to thinking What If...


    There had been no machine gun ban / freeze (no class III requirement)....


    There had been no Assignations hence no 1968 gun law...


    Where would be be today? How big of a threat would the anti gun crowd be? Think of it and all the things that happened that would not be....
    Big. The anti gun crowd will use any excuse they can to try to get guns banned. This is because it is part of the plan for the new America. Socialized medicine, video cameras everywhere, heavily armed soldier-esque police, no national sovereignty with the UN and the NAU, absolute power of government, martial law as a preventative measure instead of a reactive one, and of course (as we remember from NOLA) "No one will be allowed to be armed".

    I'm not a conspiracy theorist. This will all happen. You can count on it.

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    If we had not had the assassinations in the 60s the world would be so profoundly different as to be possibly unrecognizable. I am not a fan of JFK, however, his death left us with LBJ, one of the most vile and harmful POTUS in the history of this nation. If JFK had survived it is possible that we would never have become so involved in Vietnam nor had the huge socialist agenda passed into law in the mid-60s as while JFK was a democrat, he was more fiscally conservative than the majority of leading conservatives are today. If Bobby had survived, LBJ probably would have been the first sitting president to not receive the nomination of his party. If Bobby had become president we would have probably been out of Vietnam 5-6 years earlier. If Martin Luther King had survived today's prominant race-baiters would have been smacked down and exposed for the shams they are long ago.

    All of these factors would have had profound effects on crime and the liberal agenda in this nation. By extension, they would have had a profound effect on gun control as well. What is less certain and more debatable, is what effect? I think that if JFK and MLK had lived we would not have many of the firearm restrictions we have now. Even Bobby would have assuaged much of the left's furor and likely have reduced crime and prevented some of the explosion of gov't programs. Bobby would likely have been elected in '68 & '72 meaning no Nixon, no utter break down in people's faith in gov't...

    Interesting question. It would be easy to write a book on the topic and I'm sure someone has.
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    I'd say we'd be in a better position now. The anti-gun movement is so pervasive now because it is so permanently embedded in American culture. Had the government not started to give away our Second Amendment rights in the 1930's, there would be no momentum for the anti-gun movement. Children would not be getting taught the wonders of gun control, and overall the anti-gunners would have probably given up by now due to the tremendous uphill battle they would have faced. But the existance of some gun control led to the justification for more gun control, and the creation then of a gun control culture.

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