not open carry but...

I hope the person stopped gets their ammo back! Especially how ammo prices are going up these days :lol:

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18.2-308. Personal protection; carrying concealed weapons; when lawful to carry.
A. If any person carries about his person, hidden from common observation, (i) any pistol, revolver, or other weapon designed or intended to propel a missile of any kind by action of an explosion of any combustible material; (ii) any dirk, bowie knife, switchblade knife, ballistic knife, machete, razor, slingshot, spring stick, metal knucks, or blackjack; (iii) any flailing instrument consisting of two or more rigid parts connected in such a manner as to allow them to swing freely....................he shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor

Your knife looks ok under that....

but.......your blade is more than 3 inches so stay away from a school.....



18.2-308.1. Possession of firearm, stun weapon, or other weapon on school property prohibited.

A. If any person possesses any (i) stun weapon as defined in this section; (ii) knife, except a pocket knife having a folding metal blade of less than three inches; or (iii) weapon, including a weapon of like kind, designated in subsection A of § 18.2-308, other than a firearm; upon (a) the property of any public, private or religious elementary, middle or high school, including buildings and grounds; (b) that portion of any property open to the public and then exclusively used for school-sponsored functions or extracurricular activities while such functions or activities are taking place; or (c) any school bus owned or operated by any such school, he shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.

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ProShooter wrote:

18.2-308. Personal protection; carrying concealed weapons; when lawful to carry.
A. If any person carries about his person, hidden from common observation, (i) any pistol, revolver, or other weapon designed or intended to propel a missile of any kind by action of an explosion of any combustible material; (ii) any dirk, bowie knife, switchblade knife, ballistic knife, machete, razor, slingshot, spring stick, metal knucks, or blackjack; (iii) any flailing instrument consisting of two or more rigid parts connected in such a manner as to allow them to swing freely....................he shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor

Your knife looks ok under that....

but.......your blade is more than 3 inches so stay away from a school.....



18.2-308.1. Possession of firearm, stun weapon, or other weapon on school property prohibited.

A. If any person possesses any (i) stun weapon as defined in this section; (ii) knife, except a pocket knife having a folding metal blade of less than three inches; or (iii) weapon, including a weapon of like kind, designated in subsection A of § 18.2-308, other than a firearm; upon (a) the property of any public, private or religious elementary, middle or high school, including buildings and grounds; (b) that portion of any property open to the public and then exclusively used for school-sponsored functions or extracurricular activities while such functions or activities are taking place; or (c) any school bus owned or operated by any such school, he shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.

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what exactly is legally clasified as "any dirk, bowie knife,"?

these seem like very loose definitions, especially a bowie.

I carry a cheap fixed handle knife with a tiny brass guard and a wannabe bone handle. Is that a "bowie"? :quirky

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So an officer is permitted to empty my gun or take it from me while he is questioning me despite me having done nothing wrong? He is legally permitted to disarm me while questioing me?

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I have seen officers EMPTY the gun and magazine and give it back. I guess they are scared that you will "load it and fire quickly" before they have a chance to escape. :shock:

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On road trips I often drive through mountain roads of WV, and cutting down brush for shelter would suck with a 3" pocket folder.

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asforme wrote:

On road trips I often drive through mountain roads of WV, and cutting down brush for shelter would suck with a 3" pocket folder.

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I'd much rather just sleep in my car with a 3" pocket folder.

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ProShooter wrote:

asforme wrote:

On road trips I often drive through mountain roads of WV, and cutting down brush for shelter would suck with a 3" pocket folder.

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I'd much rather just sleep in my car with a 3" pocket folder.

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Well I'd at least need to cut firewood. Come on, don't you watch survivor-man?

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I have seen officers EMPTY the gun and magazine and give it back. I guess they are scared that you will "load it and fire quickly" before they have a chance to escape.:shock:

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The "Harbormaster of the City of Hopewell" exception always cracks me up everytime I read it. You have to wonder what kind of political connections the guy had at the time they wrote the law to get that put it there.


LEO 229 wrote

I have seen officers EMPTY the gun and magazine and give it back. I guess they are scared that you will "load it and fire quickly" before they have a chance to escape.:shock:

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I guess it doesn't occur to them that if somebody had a mind to shoot a cop he would try it before he let himself be disarmed.

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thorsmitersaw wrote:

So an officer is permitted to empty my gun or take it from me while he is questioning me despite me having done nothing wrong? He is legally permitted to disarm me while questioing me?

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There is no legal authority to do it, nor is there a prohibition against it.

It all boils down to officer safety. In a court of law, the officer's safety (and yours) totally outweighs your feelingsbeing hurt because he unloaded your gun.

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If the officer has some justification to stop you (suspects you are involved in criminal activity in some way... before, during, or after... or believes you to be a danger to yourself or the public)he can certainly disarm you.

The courts have ruled that the officer has a right to work in a safe environment. In keeping that environment safe he can pat you down for weapons and can remove those weapons for his safely.

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thorsmitersaw wrote:

So an officer is permitted to empty my gun or take it from me while he is questioning me despite me having done nothing wrong? He is legally permitted to disarm me while questioing me?

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There is no legal authority to do it, nor is there a prohibition against it.

It all boils down to officer safety. In a court of law, the officer's safety (and yours) totally outweighs your feelingsbeing hurt because he unloaded your gun.

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LEO 229 wrote:

If the officer has some justification to stop you (suspects you are involved in criminal activity in some way... before, during, or after... or believes you to be a danger to yourself or the public)he can certainly disarm you.

The courts have ruled that the officer has a right to work in a safe environment. In keeping that environment safe he can pat you down for weapons and can remove those weapons for his safely.

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LEO 229 - You can pat me down anytime you want. :lol:

Yata hey

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From Wiki -
In the USA, dirk is a word used in the knife laws of several states. While it generally means any double-edged knife, the legal meaning may vary from state to state.

Bowie knife specifically refers to a style of knife designed by Colonel David "Davy" Bowie, who lived in Texas, and originally created by James Black, though is commonly used to refer to any large sheath knife with a clip point. Bowie knives are commonly used as hunting knives.

Remember too that 308 covers weapons of like kind....

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ProShooter wrote:

thorsmitersaw wrote:

So an officer is permitted to empty my gun or take it from me while he is questioning me despite me having done nothing wrong? He is legally permitted to disarm me while questioing me?

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There is no legal authority to do it, nor is there a prohibition against it.

It all boils down to officer safety. In a court of law, the officer's safety (and yours) totally outweighs your feelingsbeing hurt because he unloaded your gun.

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I am not one to give two shits about "officer safety"

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