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    after today's interacting with the lewis co. sheriffs department, and two officers I will not be able to host an OC meet here in lewis co.

    I am currently seeking legal action, as i was told that Open carry is Illegal, and that we would all be arrested.

    It is my opinion that having this meet here in town would only worsen our chances to educate the public, and all of washington state. as it would only make matters worse.

    I am fully aware of the laws and especially the ones that go on to explain that open carry is NOT illegal. Come monday, i will know more about this issue, and keep you all updated.

    Given todays events, I think that an oc meet in OLYMPIA<thurston co. would be the best option and route to go here.

    I know that it is very short notice. But please let me know if you are still interested. otherwise. chalk this up for a loss on ourside. As now knowing this information, and then acting against it anyways would only result in further confrontation.



    I'm doing this as I fear for the safety of the group, given the reaction by deputies

    I can meet at 'old school pizza' in olympia at the very same time. as planned 12:00 if you can make it. ill be there.Ocing, as always.

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    That sucks, but probably for the best. So much out and out hostility from people who should know better.

    That said, I will be working and can't make this

    Have fun!

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    sv_libertarian wrote:
    That sucks, but probably for the best. So much out and out hostility from people who should know better.

    That said, I will be working and can't make this

    Have fun!
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    I take it the shoot is cancelled also.

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    Phil,

    Can you elaborate on your encounter?


    Found it

    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum55/11373.html

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    I am still going shooting, after olympia. as planned. who ever wants to come, is more than welcome!come on out bear.

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    Puddin99 wrote:
    Phil,

    Can you elaborate on your encounter?
    hey, the encounter was at the Sheriffs office. Read the last post i did, in the main forum, for details.

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    Dude, what the hell? Can you make up your mind? Nobody is going to get arrested.....Tacoma PD said the same **** before we went to the Tacoma barbeque right in the offending officers' back yard, and NOTHING HAPPENED.......they know they can scare you, so that is what they are doing.......let us come and help back you up with your troubles and make a show of support. You gain nothing by backing out of this, letting them know they can push you around and you won't stand up for yourself. You don't appease the school bully by giving him your lunch money, you don't give in to bullies with a badge either when you know you are in the right......

    Just my two cents, for whatever it's worth........if you want our help, we will be there; if not, then........I don't know what to tell you, cause getting headway, one man against the county, might prove hard without any kind of backing.......

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    compmanio365 wrote:
    Dude, what the hell? Can you make up your mind? Nobody is going to get arrested.....Tacoma PD said the same **** before we went to the Tacoma barbeque right in the offending officers' back yard, and NOTHING HAPPENED.......they know they can scare you, so that is what they are doing.......let us come and help back you up with your troubles and make a show of support. You gain nothing by backing out of this, letting them know they can push you around and you won't stand up for yourself. You don't appease the school bully by giving him your lunch money, you don't give in to bullies with a badge either when you know you are in the right......

    Just my two cents, for whatever it's worth........if you want our help, we will be there; if not, then........I don't know what to tell you, cause getting headway, one man against the county, might prove hard without any kind of backing.......
    I was talking with Phil about this. He has his own personal reasons for being very careful about stuff.

    He was asking me about attornies and the law and whatnot.

    Long and the short of it from our conversation is that he prefers to avoid possible trouble, and work this from a different angle. I won't share details, but he is genuinely worried for his mil job, and I don't blame him.

    Let's cut the poor guy some slack. I've talked with him a bit, and he has decided on his own to move the meet to a "safer place" and send off some nasty letters.

    Let him move at his own pace eh?

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    Well shucks, I was looking forward to it.

    So what's the new plan?

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    matt are you by your phone now, It would be alot better if i could call you directly, righ tnow. about this.. help me come to a decision.

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    I'm still in Spokane, but you can call my cell 520-0746.

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    I've gotten a bit of criticism for this but I think phil is making the right decision here. By the time we got word of a problem in Tacoma, myself and Workman were able to make contact with Tacoma Police for a few days before the Tacoma July meet in response to what happened with Mainsail. This situation occurred on a Friday afternoon, before I could make any sort of contact with any shift commanders or anyone. I sent an email to the general sheriff's desk but I have no idea if it'll be read before Monday morning.

    I'm sorry to say that the Lewis County situation is a bit different than Tacoma. A lot of these rural counties think that they can make their own rules because no one seems to pay attention to their abuses like they do in the Seattle metro area.

    I promise all of you that I will be working with others (including hopefully sv_libertarian and Dave Workman) to try to get this situation turned around.

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    Lonnie Wilson wrote:
    I've gotten a bit of criticism for this but I think phil is making the right decision here. By the time we got word of a problem in Tacoma, myself and Workman were able to make contact with Tacoma Police for a few days before the Tacoma July meet in response to what happened with Mainsail. This situation occurred on a Friday afternoon, before I could make any sort of contact with any shift commanders or anyone. I sent an email to the general sheriff's desk but I have no idea if it'll be read before Monday morning.

    I'm sorry to say that the Lewis County situation is a bit different than Tacoma. A lot of these rural counties think that they can make their own rules because no one seems to pay attention to their abuses like they do in the Seattle metro area.

    I promise all of you that I will be working with others (including hopefully sv_libertarian and Dave Workman) to try to get this situation turned around.
    I've talked with Phil and we have a game plan and are meeting Monday to talk. Will work from there. Needless to say I refered him to a good attorney

    This whole thing seemed too risky to keep going in Centralia.
    Besides Old School Pizza rocks! :P

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    I support postponing the meet, but obviously not backing down. We WILL win this in the long term. Working at it from the back end with less confrontation is preferable.

    Besides, there's always time for confrontation later if we exhaust all other avenues. Maybe we could still shoot for the "official" meet at the end of the month, after we've worked for the next 3 to 4 weeks from the back end?

    Please let me know what I can do to help. I'm happy to chime in with a tactful letter of my own, or hold my tongue, whatever the more experienced folks think is best.

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    phil teters wrote:
    chalk this up for a loss on ourside.
    No, this is not a loss, this is the enemy identifying itself and blatantly showing its weak points. This is not a loss, this is an opportunity to take full advantage of the situation and prove these idiots wrong.

    Go with whatever plan you have in the works, legal action, letters, training bulletins, whatever, but this is definitely not a loss.

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    myself,Sv, Lonnie, and a few others, will be working on this. as soon as we get some sort of resolution, well let everyone know. but for now.. were just going to have to deal with OLDSCHOOL, on sunday at noon.

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    Old School. Sunday. Noon. Got it.

    I'm very much in favor of doing things this way. Plan your work and work your plan, says the old bull, and I'm an old bull...or duck...whatever.

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    Actually this works out quite nicely for me. Since I will no longer be teaching the little monsters after June 13 I will have more time on my hands and would probably be interested in a nice long motorcycle ride to have lunch with some friends. Count me in if the weather is nice.

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    Phil, seeing your changing the location can you give us lakewood guy directions. Sorry you had to change locations. I agree you don't need to get in trouble before your deployment. Still count me in for 2 for lunch. Were are we planning on shooting at now.

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    dlnwoody wrote:
    Phil, seeing your changing the location can you give us lakewood guy directions. Sorry you had to change locations. I agree you don't need to get in trouble before your deployment. Still count me in for 2 for lunch. Were are we planning on shooting at now.
    i'm still planning on shooting in centralia, you guys are more than welcome to come, and i want bear to come on out too!

    Baysically, I'm just trying to watch my own ass. lol I know it sounds selfish. but i have alot of other peoples asses to watch out for too.

    I don't know the EXACT directions. But i know if you take the downtown exit. to olympia, which is exit 105 off of I-5. youll want to find 4th avenue, should be easy. it goes in a grid pattern. From there, you're looking for old school pizza. it's pretty easy to find, and there will be a bright orange firebird, somewhere around there. But.. Don't just look for my car, sometimes parking may be bad. Either way.. ifyou get lost, ask anyone. they know how to get there!



    Yep, the food is that good.:what:

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    My first attempt at posting a .jpg here. (It's a map, not a front elevation.)

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    Wish I could join you guys. The wife works weekends and I have my two daughters. Which wouldn't be too bad but the older one is really sick right now. She's a puking machine.
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    Sure sorry to hear of the recent turn of events, but not surprised and I would expect to get the same reaction from the PD and/or Sheriffs down here in Vancouver.

    Seems like we still could have gotten together for lunch and further discussion esp for those of us that can't make it up to the Puget Sound area.

    I was even thinking about stopping in at the gun show in Centralia! :X

    Keep us all posted and best to you all.



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    PoppaGary wrote:
    Sure sorry to hear of the recent turn of events, but not surprised and I would expect to get the same reaction from the PD and/or Sheriffs down here in Vancouver.

    Gary
    Have you found this Blockbuster thread? For some reason the forum search won't find it. The 911 call (with radio traffic) is also available at NWCDL.org. Another excellent resource.It provides some insight toward the end in the car-to-car traffic.

    Welcome to the forum.

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