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Mainsail wrote:
Whew, let me see if I can bring this down to the third grade level for you. Here’s his entire post without the big red letters:
Negligence happens when you forget the basics.
All guns are loaded, even after you have checked them to ensure that they aren't loaded, even after you have double checked them to ensure that they are unloaded, and even after you have triple checked then to ensure that they are unloaded.
If you ALWAYS treat the gun as if it is loaded even when you KNOW that is is unloaded, if you do have a NEGLIGENT discharge, it should be in a safe direction.
I don’t see anything anywhere in that post where he gives an example of anything.
Please highlight where you see one. Here’s the Four Rules of Firearms Safety:
- All guns are always loaded (until you establish whether they are or not).
- Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy. Keep your gun pointed in a safe direction at all times: on the range, at home, loading, or unloading.
- Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target (and you are ready to shoot).
- Be sure of your target. Know what it is, what is in line with it and what is behind it. Never shoot at anything that you haven't positively identified.
OK, now lets see if we can un-bunch your panties. When one simplifies rule 1 to “all guns are always loaded” they demonstrate that they do not follow the rule when they dry-fire (or clean etc) their gun. When you demonstrate that you preach the rule but do not follow the rule you set up a condition of indifference. Imagine trying to teach your children that smoking is bad while there’s a cigarette dangling from your lip. You aren’t teaching them that smoking is bad; you’re teaching them that you’re a hypocrite.
The statement “all guns are always loaded” is an absolute statement, in other words, there are no exceptions to that rule. If you make an exception to a rule that doesn’t have an exception, you are demonstrating the rule is a lie.
Although you've said it Twice Now. You Disagree withtreating every weapon as if it were loaded.
I have not even once disagreed with “treating every weapon as if it were loaded”; I disagreed with the idea that “all guns are always loaded”. Nothing has changed from the first post, everything has been consistent.
Somewhere along the way people started saying that Rule 1 was: “All guns are always loaded”. This is a bastardization of the true Rule 1 which is “All guns are always loaded (until you establish whether they are or not)”. Rule 2 takes care of keeping it pointed in a safe direction whether it’s loaded or not.
Are you even Serious ?
You telling me that you actualy think, that by making the statement "Treat Every Weapon as if it were Loaded" actually makes it impossible to clean your weapon ?
BTW, Attempting to insult my intelligence will not help you with yours.
I can't believe you would even dare compare my level of thinking to a childs, b/c You can't seem to understand what I'm saying.
Let's review.
Guy makes post about a man shooting himself.
Guy says accidents happen, no matter what you think you know.
Guy says Negligence happens when you forget the basics.
Then Guy gives a simple analogy about the WELL known and Well Obeyed safety rule"
treating every weapon as if it were loaded."
THEN YOU, butt in and Ridicule this guys Safety Rule by saying,
This is another case of saying something that sounds good because it sounds good, not because it has any substance. It is the dumbing-down of the real firearms rules that contributes to these NDs.
Then go on your fairy dance an introduce YOUR supposed
"REAL" Safety Rule. That you completely misquoted stating:
"Treat every weapon as if it were loaded, "UNTIL" you verify that it's not."
I said that your supposed "REAL" rule is BS and had to have the word, "UNTIL" thrown in there in order for morons to figure out how to clean there weapon while still acting as if it were loaded.
If you realy want to learn the "REAL" Safety Rules perhaps you should learn some History. The First set were put fourth by
Colonel Jeff CooperLook it up !
His First 4 were:
1. All guns are always loaded.
2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target.
4. Always be sure of your target.
Now I know it must take some Brain Frying thinking on your part, to try and figure out how your going to clean your weapon and treat it as if it were loaded, but don't be afraid, Millions of people do it daily.
So Yes Again Captain Obvious, We are aware that our weapons are indeed NOT ALWAYS loaded
.
The Analogy of thinking, that "All Weapons are Loaded" is
NO DIFFERENT, than thinking in the mindset of "Treating every weapon as if it were loaded."
Your kind had to add the word,
"UNTIL" in there, so that you could SIMPLIFY it to a 3rd Grade Level of understanding, (As you like to say) so that you will be able to comprehend the analogy of the rule.
Sorry for over judging your ability to decipher simple analogies.