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Open Carry Tools

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Over at Utah Concealed Carry they have a topic called "Tools to have ready if you carry openly" by GeneticsDave. So thanks Dave!!!

I'm posting this over here at OCDO because some of our members here don't frequent UCC and can use the same tools, also it was a slight recommendation from another OCDO member.

H.B. 473 -- Firearms Amendments Debate
Dave made an audio file from a Utah House Law Enforcement and Criminal Justice Committee that took place on Monday, February 18, 2008. Had some of the "top dogs" of Utah Concealed Carry/Open Carry at the committee debate. Very good listening. I have also written up a transcript for that debate and have made it available to the public so you might hand it out to pesky and uninformed law enforcement officers and others you deem need "educating." (Don't get me wrong, love our peace officers for all they do, but just need a little more education.)

H.B. 473 Official Page
H.B. 473 Audio
H.B. 473 Transcript

ScottyT's Pamphlet
ScottyT made this excellent pamphlet called "Utah Gun Law -- A Quick Reference for Utah Citizens." Very nice indeed! Thanks Scotty!!!

Utah Gun Law Pamphlet

If you have any more tools please post them here and we'll try to keep this updated with all the latest tools (pamphlets, audio files, essays, law cases, letters, etc.).

Legality of Open Carry
This is Bflamante's PDF for the legality of open carry when loaded. "I put the two statutes on the same page for easy and quick reference. A must carry for your picket or wallet when open carry loaded is involved."

Pocket Statute for Open Carry Loaded
 
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Here is my pdf of the legality of open carry when loaded with a CFP. I put the two statutes on the same page for easy and quick reference. A must carry for your picket or wallet when open carry loaded is involved. This thread is a great idea.
 

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Bflamante wrote:
Here is my pdf of the legality of open carry when loaded with a CFP. I put the two statutes on the same page for easy and quick reference. A must carry for your picket or wallet when open carry loaded is involved. This thread is a great idea.
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I added it to the top of the topic.
 
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Great job Outsider, and I ask that everyone keeps these on them, We want the LEO's to be educated, but who wants to be stopped and harassed?

Keep them on you, always.
 
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thx997303 wrote:
Great job Outsider, and I ask that everyone keeps these on them, We want the LEO's to be educated, but who wants to be stopped and harassed?

Keep them on you, always.
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Thank Dave, he gave the idea. Oh, and TJ wanting the transcript. Thank them.
 
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Outsider wrote:
thx997303 wrote:
Great job Outsider, and I ask that everyone keeps these on them, We want the LEO's to be educated, but who wants to be stopped and harassed?

Keep them on you, always.
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Thank Dave, he gave the idea. Oh, and TJ wanting the transcript. Thank them.
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But Outsider did all the work - so he should get the credit.
 
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I'll just throw out credit, and if you guys want, you can fight over it like cheap whores,

or you can split it evenly to those who deserve credit, like high class whores.

J/K guys whoever did it thanks
 
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GeneticsDave wrote:
Outsider wrote:
thx997303 wrote:
Great job Outsider, and I ask that everyone keeps these on them, We want the LEO's to be educated, but who wants to be stopped and harassed?

Keep them on you, always.
Click to expand...
Thank Dave, he gave the idea. Oh, and TJ wanting the transcript. Thank them.
Click to expand...
But Outsider did all the work - so he should get the credit.
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I'M TRYING TO BE HUMBLE HERE!!! :banghead: :p
 
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Outsider wrote:
GeneticsDave wrote:
Outsider wrote:
thx997303 wrote:
Great job Outsider, and I ask that everyone keeps these on them, We want the LEO's to be educated, but who wants to be stopped and harassed?

Keep them on you, always.
Click to expand...
Thank Dave, he gave the idea. Oh, and TJ wanting the transcript. Thank them.
Click to expand...
But Outsider did all the work - so he should get the credit.
Click to expand...

I'M TRYING TO BE HUMBLE HERE!!! :banghead: :p
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No, it's true Outsider. The credit is all yours. We just happened to "push" at to get done just a little bit faster:lol:...:celebrate



TJ
 
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Outsider wrote:
GeneticsDave wrote:
Outsider wrote:
thx997303 wrote:
Great job Outsider, and I ask that everyone keeps these on them, We want the LEO's to be educated, but who wants to be stopped and harassed?

Keep them on you, always.
Click to expand...
Thank Dave, he gave the idea. Oh, and TJ wanting the transcript. Thank them.
Click to expand...
But Outsider did all the work - so he should get the credit.
Click to expand...

I'M TRYING TO BE HUMBLE HERE!!! :banghead: :p
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I know you are, and I'm throwing it right back at cha! YOU ARE THE MAN OUTSIDER!!! YOU ROCK!!! I didn't do Jack, you are the one who deserves all of thx's pimp credit!
 
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And for almost all of us, the answer would be no.

Or, Are you conducting yourself in a disorderly manner?

Again, NO
 
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Interesting... hmm... I see... I think Title 76 applies more to OC though. And to me they kinda look the same.
 
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Outsider wrote:
Interesting... hmm... I see... I think Title 76 applies more to OC though. And to me they kinda look the same.
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It appears to me that 10-8-50 grants permission to cities and counties to define their own ordinances for "Disturbing the Peace", and lists the sorts of activities they are allowed to include (disorderly conduct is one of them). So you'd never get cited for violation of 10-8-50, instead you'd be cited for violating a city ordinance. However, I don't see any way an ordinance compliant with 10-8-50 could punish open carry.
 
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