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    Speak Up Now On Right-To-Carry In National Parks



    Since February 11, 2005, VCDL has twice filed a Petition for Rule
    Making (PRM) with the Department of the Interior. Forty Three
    organizations, representing over one million gun owners, cosigned
    VCDL's PRM.

    Member Dave Yates tells us the comment count stands at 9500 + and we
    are still winning. However there are more anti- comments interspersed.

    As written, the proposed rule is not as strong as we want it.

    If you haven't yet contacted DOI, here is the information:

    To send in your comments to the DOI, click here:

    http://tinyurl.com/5juwn3

    Copy and paste the following text into the "General Comments" box and
    then "Next Step" at the bottom to continue.

    Suggested "General Comments" text:

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    The proposed rule falls far short of what Senator Crapo's letter to
    DOI on December 14th, 2007 requested. The letter, signed by 51
    Senators, asked that National Parks and National Wildlife Refuges
    assimilate the host state's gun laws.

    The rule also falls far short of the Virginia Citizens Defense
    League's Petition for Rule Making sent to DOI and dated January 19,
    2008. Like Senator Crapo's letter, the Petition, representing over
    one million gun owners, requested that the gun laws for the host state
    be assimilated.

    The proposed rule needs to assimilate state law in a similar manner as
    National Forests do for the lawful carry of weapons for self-defense.
    That would make the rules for such carriage of self-defense weapons in
    National Parks, National Wildlife Refuges and National Forests the
    same and consistent with the laws of the state surrounding the parks
    and refuges.

    Please change the wording of the rules as follows, which would make
    the regulation of carry commensurate with standards of the host state,
    while removing the nebulous and confusing wording about "similar lands":

    "A person may possess, carry, and transport loaded, and operable
    firearms or other weapons within a national park area in the same
    manner, and to the same extent, that a person may lawfully possess,
    carry, and transport loaded and operable firearms or other weapons in
    the state in which the federal park, or that portion thereof, is
    located, provided that such possession, carrying and transporting
    otherwise complies with applicable federal and state law."

    And for National Wildlife Refuges:

    "A person may possess, carry, and transport loaded, and operable
    firearms or other weapons within a national wildlife refuge area in
    the same manner, and to the same extent, that a person may lawfully
    possess, carry, and transport loaded and operable firearms or other
    weapons in the state in which the federal wildlife refuge, or that
    portion thereof, is located, provided that such possession, carrying
    and transporting otherwise complies with applicable federal and state
    law."

    Existing poaching laws will serve to deter poaching in National Parks
    and Wildlife Refuges, just as they do on state land

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    I think I may have done this before. Not positive so I definitely did it this time.

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    I wrote two paragraphs supporting the change and when I try to submit I get "connection timed out.":X

    But from what I read, the proposed change is the exact wording you used. I'm not sure then what you mean when you say it doesn't go far enough.

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    This is an important issue and I would ask that everyone amongst us take just a moment to share your thoughts with the DOI via the lonk above.

    Thanks and let's make this happen!


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    done
    Carry On.

    Ed

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    I can't get the url to connect.

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    I'm planning a trip to Gettysburg Battlefield in July and find that it is managed by the National Parks Service (NPS) who as we all have come to know does not allow weapons. Any changes in their policy will come too late for me.

    Perhaps I shall wear (OC) an empty holster! Read all about it - Virginia gentleman terrorizes tourists with an empty holster and two empty mag carriers!!

    Perhaps if the NPS had been in charge of the area back when the War Between the States was raging, we would have had no history made there. I'm sure that all of the combatants would have either laid down their arms or fought somewhere else.

    Yata hey
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    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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