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Moderators Editing Posts
- Thread starter Pointman
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SQLtables
Regular Member
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Pointman wrote:
hehe, just kidding....
I have to agree with all of this though, posts should not be edited by anybody except the OP.
Pointman wrote:
hehe, just kidding....
I have to agree with all of this though, posts should not be edited by anybody except the OP.
asforme
Campaign Veteran
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Let idiots write like idiots. Makes them easier to spot in a crowd.
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Let idiots write like idiots. Makes them easier to spot in a crowd.
imperialism2024
Regular Member
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Well, in the case of re-formatting or deletion, so long as the moderator notes this in the post, I can't see an issue with it. The mod is not adding anything, that is, he isn't putting words into the mouth of the poster, and is making a good faith effort to let the post be heard, instead of just deleting it. So long as the mod "signs" his edits, I'm not complaining...
Well, in the case of re-formatting or deletion, so long as the moderator notes this in the post, I can't see an issue with it. The mod is not adding anything, that is, he isn't putting words into the mouth of the poster, and is making a good faith effort to let the post be heard, instead of just deleting it. So long as the mod "signs" his edits, I'm not complaining...
FogRider
Regular Member
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imperialism2024 wrote:
imperialism2024 wrote:
As long as the formatting being changed was not put there for particular emphasis (slightly larger text, bold, red etc.), I agree with you. 24pt green comic sans is just hard to read.
imperialism2024
Regular Member
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FogRider wrote:
Maybe they could tweak the forum software so that only Verdana font in black and red can be used... :celebrate
FogRider wrote:
Yup, that's what I was talking about.
Maybe they could tweak the forum software so that only Verdana font in black and red can be used... :celebrate
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The job of a moderator is to do the very things you do not care for.
Moderators keep the peace, keep things on track, close threads, remove offensive text, and makecorrections to posts as needed. No moderator will ever add something that was not said my the member.
If the paragraph formattingis so poor or they write a single run-on sentence.. this needs to be corrected so that the membership as a whole can read it easily. Why should EVERYONE bleed from their eyes?? :lol:
Your need to know that the member's writing skills are not that great is really pointless.This does not make them an "idiot". Membershave been attacked herebut not their valid comments.... but instead theirgrammar errors. This is often done by those that have nothing valid left to say and have ran out of any good arguments.
A man and his opinion really has nothing to do with his grammar. I have seen a great many members here who are lacking and they are not idiots. We are all a product of the American education system and some of us are lacking in our writing skills but that has nothing to do with our opinion.
The job of a moderator is to do the very things you do not care for.
Moderators keep the peace, keep things on track, close threads, remove offensive text, and makecorrections to posts as needed. No moderator will ever add something that was not said my the member.
If the paragraph formattingis so poor or they write a single run-on sentence.. this needs to be corrected so that the membership as a whole can read it easily. Why should EVERYONE bleed from their eyes?? :lol:
Your need to know that the member's writing skills are not that great is really pointless.This does not make them an "idiot". Membershave been attacked herebut not their valid comments.... but instead theirgrammar errors. This is often done by those that have nothing valid left to say and have ran out of any good arguments.
A man and his opinion really has nothing to do with his grammar. I have seen a great many members here who are lacking and they are not idiots. We are all a product of the American education system and some of us are lacking in our writing skills but that has nothing to do with our opinion.
OC-Glock19
Founder's Club Member
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LEO 229 wrote:
Excellent summary, LEO229.
I appreciate the work our moderators do, (having never been subjected to editing or deletion by one).
LEO 229 wrote:
Excellent summary, LEO229.
I appreciate the work our moderators do, (having never been subjected to editing or deletion by one).
deepdiver
Campaign Veteran
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LEO 229 wrote:
LEO 229 wrote:
Now I agree with you....
imperialism2024
Regular Member
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I'd like to thank 229 for finally locking all of the "oooo look at how the cops are all evil!" threads. Now, if only the mods would, with the same vigor, lock all of the 2008-presidential-election threads that don't specifically relate to 2A rights and aren't repetitions of threads within the top 5 pages, we'd be in really good shape...
I'd like to thank 229 for finally locking all of the "oooo look at how the cops are all evil!" threads. Now, if only the mods would, with the same vigor, lock all of the 2008-presidential-election threads that don't specifically relate to 2A rights and aren't repetitions of threads within the top 5 pages, we'd be in really good shape...
asforme
Campaign Veteran
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Maybe my use of the word idiot was strong, but I still stand by my statement. I think the majority of grammatical or sentence structure errors come not from a lack of education, but from laziness. It is because people do not take the time to read what they have written before they click the send button.
I use the style of someones writing to judge how I should interpret their statement, and yes I make prejudices about the persons opinion based on their writing style. I believe this is entirely appropriate.
Forcing yourself to write clearly, with proper vocabulary and sentence structure forces you to concentrate on what you are saying. It also shows that you have taken the time to choose the best way to arrive at, and express, your conclusion.
On the other hand, writing a long run on sentence with little capitalization and no concern for readability shows that you simply wanted to spout off what you had to say as quickly as possible. You did not think about it, proof read it, or take time to make sure it was actually what you intended to say. I am much less concerned with the opinions of people who think or write in this haste manner than I am with people who take time to formulate and express their opinions.
As I said, I believe these judgments are entirely appropriate, and I do not like the fact that moderators want to remove my ability to make them.
Maybe my use of the word idiot was strong, but I still stand by my statement. I think the majority of grammatical or sentence structure errors come not from a lack of education, but from laziness. It is because people do not take the time to read what they have written before they click the send button.
I use the style of someones writing to judge how I should interpret their statement, and yes I make prejudices about the persons opinion based on their writing style. I believe this is entirely appropriate.
Forcing yourself to write clearly, with proper vocabulary and sentence structure forces you to concentrate on what you are saying. It also shows that you have taken the time to choose the best way to arrive at, and express, your conclusion.
On the other hand, writing a long run on sentence with little capitalization and no concern for readability shows that you simply wanted to spout off what you had to say as quickly as possible. You did not think about it, proof read it, or take time to make sure it was actually what you intended to say. I am much less concerned with the opinions of people who think or write in this haste manner than I am with people who take time to formulate and express their opinions.
As I said, I believe these judgments are entirely appropriate, and I do not like the fact that moderators want to remove my ability to make them.
Doug Huffman
Banned
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deepdiver wrote:
For balance, if nothing else, I vehemently disagree.
If 'victims of education' are capable of forming and expressing opinions beyond basic appetites/desires then of what use is the education?
Illiteracy is not equivalent to literacy.
Read and understand The Deliberate Dumbing down of America by Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt. Available as an 11MB .pdf from http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/
deepdiver wrote:
For balance, if nothing else, I vehemently disagree.
If 'victims of education' are capable of forming and expressing opinions beyond basic appetites/desires then of what use is the education?
Illiteracy is not equivalent to literacy.
Read and understand The Deliberate Dumbing down of America by Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt. Available as an 11MB .pdf from http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/
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Thanks Doug.... I knew you would not agree. Simply because I said it. :lol:
I suck at spelling and grammar. I just did not get it in school and only the rich preppy kids got the attention of the teacher. She knew I needed help but did nothing to help me.
So somehow this is MY FAULT because I failed to learn where the teacher is supposed to teach me. The teacher sucked and failed to act.
Being educated has nothing to do with having an opinion on something.
Does this mean that if I have a masters degree in something that my opinion on open carry should hold more weight then someone with a high school diploma or even a GED?
I think not! You only hold more weight if you are expressing an opinion in something you know about from first hand experience. And then..... it is still just your opinion.
Thanks Doug.... I knew you would not agree. Simply because I said it. :lol:
I suck at spelling and grammar. I just did not get it in school and only the rich preppy kids got the attention of the teacher. She knew I needed help but did nothing to help me.
So somehow this is MY FAULT because I failed to learn where the teacher is supposed to teach me. The teacher sucked and failed to act.
Being educated has nothing to do with having an opinion on something.
Does this mean that if I have a masters degree in something that my opinion on open carry should hold more weight then someone with a high school diploma or even a GED?
I think not! You only hold more weight if you are expressing an opinion in something you know about from first hand experience. And then..... it is still just your opinion.
bayfire66
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Leo 229 what does this have to do with OC? U closed all the threads that you thought were cop bashing but i see quite few that have nothing to do with OC and those are not closed?
Leo 229 what does this have to do with OC? U closed all the threads that you thought were cop bashing but i see quite few that have nothing to do with OC and those are not closed?
imperialism2024
Regular Member
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Pointman wrote:
Pointman wrote:
I guess it comes down to preference over post editing or outright deletion. I prefer the editing but hey, that's just me
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Pointman wrote:
Many posts could be removed but an edit is often times more appropriate. The author can see his post and the moderator edit that was made. It will help him understand what was not appropriate.
Pointman wrote:
It is rare that this is even required. I am not sure why it is such a hot topic at the moment.
Many posts could be removed but an edit is often times more appropriate. The author can see his post and the moderator edit that was made. It will help him understand what was not appropriate.