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    I searched thru the threads and found nothing on this info. Although the article is from Jan 2008 I thought it was worth posting anyway.

    http://accurateshooter.wordpress.com...-transactions/

    The NSSF reports that Citicorp’s Merchant Services Division is refusing to process gun-related customer credit-card sales. This applies both to legal firearms transactions conducted through licensed FFLs as well as ordinary sales of firearms accessories. The first company to be affected by this decision appears to be firearms distributor CDNN Sports, a large retail operation based in Texas. Citi Merchant Services and First Data notified CDNN that its merchant services account would be terminated and funds seized. (Citicorp Merchant Services employs First Data Merchant Services Corporation to handle credit card transactions.)
    Charlie Crawford, president of CDNN Sports Inc., explained: “We were contacted recently by First Data/Citi Merchant Services by a June Rivera-Mantilla stating that we were terminated and funds were being seized for selling firearms in a non-face-to-face transaction. Although perfectly legal, we were also informed that no transactions would be processed in the future, even for non-firearms.”
    If you have a Citigroup credit card, or use Citibank for your banking services, you may want to consider shifting your accounts to another financial services provider — and be sure you tell the Citibank representatives why you are making the shift. If gun owners act in solidarity, other credit card companies may think twice about following Citigroup’s lead in refusing to handle gun transactions. To voice your concern to Citi Merchant Services and First Data Corp. directly, you can contact June Rivera-Mantilla at 631-683-7734 or Robert Tenenbaum at 631-683-6570.
    If you run a firearms-related business and wish to shift to an NSSF-affiliated credit card processing program, contact Payment Alliance International at 1-866-371-2273 (ext. 1131).


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    Violation of their fiduciary agreement. They will get sued and their asses kicked. They aren't your mother, so have no f9(*&^%g business tell you what you can do with your own money, or how a business can operate so long as it is within the law. And I agree, if I had an account with them, I would immediately cancel and tell them why. That's what the sobs understand. And why I have a USAA Credit Card.
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    Resistance is Futile, Gunslinger. You shall be Assimilated.

    And, just for posting on a gun related forum - we are taking away your birthday

    Must be nice to make up rules as you go along and just 'seize' other people's money. Banks are criminals.

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    I find it very interesting that because they sold firearms legally the bank thinks it gets to steal their f*cking money. This is SICK.

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    CitiBank also kept about $20k of CDNN's money "for potential charge-backs."

    I sent them a letter after going onto their website and finding their Code of Ethics. One Ethic was to support free and open trade.

    Of course I rubbed their noses in THAT one, and sent letters to all CitiBank sponsored retail card merchants telling them why I tore up their cards.

    I sent copies to CDNN's owner, got a nice letter from him in reply.

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    If my Citi card wasn't my nearly-maxed-out-card I'd close it. As it stands, I think I'll pay it down a bit and buy another gun.

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    Aran wrote:
    If my Citi card wasn't my nearly-maxed-out-card I'd close it. As it stands, I think I'll pay it down a bit and buy another gun.
    Ditto

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    Aran wrote:
    If my Citi card wasn't my nearly-maxed-out-card I'd close it. As it stands, I think I'll pay it down a bit and buy another gun.
    Transfer the balance to a new card. You stick it to CB and will get a better intro rate to boot.
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    Gunslinger wrote:
    Aran wrote:
    If my Citi card wasn't my nearly-maxed-out-card I'd close it. As it stands, I think I'll pay it down a bit and buy another gun.
    Transfer the balance to a new card. You stick it to CB and will get a better intro rate to boot.
    Haha, to be honest, I just transferred TO my Citi card because ofa 0% balance transfer..

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    SQLtables wrote:
    Gunslinger wrote:
    Aran wrote:
    If my Citi card wasn't my nearly-maxed-out-card I'd close it. As it stands, I think I'll pay it down a bit and buy another gun.
    Transfer the balance to a new card. You stick it to CB and will get a better intro rate to boot.
    Haha, to be honest, I just transferred TO my Citi card because ofa 0% balance transfer..
    Even better, just transfer it again as soon as the intro rate is over. Just don't let them make any money from you. Maybe you should call them and tell them you own guns and ask if they can seize your debt.

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    asforme wrote:
    SQLtables wrote:
    Gunslinger wrote:
    Aran wrote:
    If my Citi card wasn't my nearly-maxed-out-card I'd close it. As it stands, I think I'll pay it down a bit and buy another gun.
    Transfer the balance to a new card. You stick it to CB and will get a better intro rate to boot.
    Haha, to be honest, I just transferred TO my Citi card because ofa 0% balance transfer..
    Even better, just transfer it again as soon as the intro rate is over. Just don't let them make any money from you. Maybe you should call them and tell them you own guns and ask if they can seize your debt.
    HAHa that's a thought... hm.. I might have to try that. I definately will use their money for free while I can, and then close the account.

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    You know Gunslinger, It's too bad most civilians can't get an account at a bank as good as USAA. I haven't found one that even comes close to USAA when it comes to service.



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    thx997303 wrote:
    You know Gunslinger, It's too bad most civilians can't get an account at a bank as good as USAA. I haven't found one that even comes close to USAA when it comes to service.

    +1 I love USAA. Thanks for being in the USAF dad!

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    Yeah, My daughter and wife are lucky, If I weren't in the service, they'd have to deal with WELLS FARGO:shock::shock::shock::shock::shock:

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    Good stuff! Just closed a $16K account with Shiticorp and told them why!

    Eat that!

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    The company I work for uses First Data to process their transactions! Dang!

    Consequently First Data is the company that forced Frontier Airlines into bankrupcy... Not a good company in my book.

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    This came out in Jan '08. Since then I have seen nothing more about the matter. The National Shooting Sports Foundation puts out the release and then conveniently throws in at the end the way for merchants to change to a NSSF affiliated processing program. I have not seen such a release from the NRA or GOA although I could have missed them. I have purchased a firearm and related items, including ammo and holsters from firearm related only businesses, with my Citi credit card and have never had any issues.

    Color me skeptical.
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    We really don't know why it happened. Luckily I have nothing in Citi accounts so I don't have to worry about it.

    I am interested in finding out if there is any more information on this situation. If anyone sees anything, post it in here.

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