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Legal help - City of Wilkes Barre, PA Police pull a Dickson City, then retreat under cone of silence
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imperialism2024
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So, has the OP reported the gun stolen yet?
So, has the OP reported the gun stolen yet?
mystery_man
Regular Member
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Hey everyone! I'm still here... justcan't comment on the statements made by the City of Wilkes-Barre just yet. I have an attorney and have been told not to disclose any information at this time. This weekend I will try to answer some of the general questions that have been postedin the forums.
I also wanted to thank everyone for their support and encouragement both here and over at pafoa.com. It's nice to know that there are people to turn to in times like these. Thank you.
A.J.
Hey everyone! I'm still here... justcan't comment on the statements made by the City of Wilkes-Barre just yet. I have an attorney and have been told not to disclose any information at this time. This weekend I will try to answer some of the general questions that have been postedin the forums.
I also wanted to thank everyone for their support and encouragement both here and over at pafoa.com. It's nice to know that there are people to turn to in times like these. Thank you.
A.J.
deepdiver
Campaign Veteran
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mystery_man wrote:
mystery_man wrote:
We are all in this together regardless of where such abuses occur in the USA. If all gun owners always had each other's backs when they were in the right we wouldn't have gotten into this mess in the first place.
Aran
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deepdiver wrote:
deepdiver wrote:
Unfortunately, some gun owners like to pretend things never happen, and call anyone who has issues a liar.
Mike
Site Co-Founder
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deepdiver wrote:
deepdiver wrote:
Right! Reports from PA say that some police departments do this to concealed carriers too who are dumb enough to notify they are carrying!
Citizen
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Mike wrote:
How can you not be detained but have personal property seized off your person?
The report isself-contradictory. You don't have to know or believe AJ. All you have to do is read thereport to know something smells.
Hahahhahahahahahaha! What a bunch of incompetents.
Mike wrote:
How can you not be detained but have personal property seized off your person?
The report isself-contradictory. You don't have to know or believe AJ. All you have to do is read thereport to know something smells.
Hahahhahahahahahaha! What a bunch of incompetents.
johnnyb
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i hope yo ustick it to them as hard as you possibly can
sue the city for as much money as possible and try to get those officers fired.
maybe they'll get real jobs that generate wealth for this country rather than waste it
i hope yo ustick it to them as hard as you possibly can
sue the city for as much money as possible and try to get those officers fired.
maybe they'll get real jobs that generate wealth for this country rather than waste it
Glock Fan
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imperialism2024 wrote:
Like that idea. Would be interesting to hear the answer.
gf
imperialism2024 wrote:
So, has the OP reported the gun stolen yet?
Like that idea. Would be interesting to hear the answer.
gf
Glock Fan
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Let's not give anyone any ideas ...
Let's not give anyone any ideas ...
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This is getting to be epidemic, especially in Pennsylvania.
You would THINK that after the DC episode with PA Patriot that all other Police Depts. in Penn. would know the OC Law by now? or maybe in some ODD way the WBPD thinks that they are helping their DCPD brethren out :?
Either way, it looks like the entire State of PA. needs a refresher course for their Police Depts. on OC Laws?
One more question, on the Pa. State Police " Owner Registry" if this is illegal and they have already admitted to using this illegal registry, won't this give them extra rope to hang themselves? and will this lawsuit make the State Police abandon this illegal AND stupid registry?
I hope you guys spank them good, it seems in this day and age SOME Police Depts. think they are above the law themselves and I for one do not trust the Police Depts. anymore for "Common Sense" reports
Moon Doggie
This is getting to be epidemic, especially in Pennsylvania.
You would THINK that after the DC episode with PA Patriot that all other Police Depts. in Penn. would know the OC Law by now? or maybe in some ODD way the WBPD thinks that they are helping their DCPD brethren out :?
Either way, it looks like the entire State of PA. needs a refresher course for their Police Depts. on OC Laws?
One more question, on the Pa. State Police " Owner Registry" if this is illegal and they have already admitted to using this illegal registry, won't this give them extra rope to hang themselves? and will this lawsuit make the State Police abandon this illegal AND stupid registry?
I hope you guys spank them good, it seems in this day and age SOME Police Depts. think they are above the law themselves and I for one do not trust the Police Depts. anymore for "Common Sense" reports
Moon Doggie
imperialism2024
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Moon Doggie wrote:
The best way to fix the problem is to give Philadelphia away to New Jersey. Without the votes and corresponding "representation" of the cretins inhabiting that shithole, Pennsylvania's state government would be able to reflect the interests of the whole state.
At this rate, I can't see it taking very long before Pennsylvania turns into New York... a relatively decent state with relatively decent people, that is dragged down by a single city that doesn't understand anything but socialist nanny-statism.
Moon Doggie wrote:
Well, IIRC, over the years the PSP has received several memos from the US Dept. of Justice telling them to shut down the database, and have yet to do so... I don't think these incidents will have much effect, especially with King Edward at the helm of the state.
The best way to fix the problem is to give Philadelphia away to New Jersey. Without the votes and corresponding "representation" of the cretins inhabiting that shithole, Pennsylvania's state government would be able to reflect the interests of the whole state.
At this rate, I can't see it taking very long before Pennsylvania turns into New York... a relatively decent state with relatively decent people, that is dragged down by a single city that doesn't understand anything but socialist nanny-statism.
Pa. Patriot
State Researcher
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UPDATE:
PART I
mystery_man has his firearm back.
I accompanied Mystery_Man to the WBPD and he successfully retrieved his firearm. Not much to say about the specifics except that he did not prove ownership.
WBPD did not seem happy to see me (or maybe it was my sidearm?), if looks could kill I would not be posting right now.
MM is a real class act, upon completion of the formalities and ultimate return of his firearm, he preceded to holster it up right there (he wore his empty holster) and tucked his shirt in behind it
We then walked up to the town square to get some pizza and then stood on the sidewalk talking by our parked cars (across from the PD) for about 45 minutes or so.
Other than some dirty looks and even a couple approving looks, WBPD didn't seem to have an issue with our OC today like they did on 6/7
PART II
...tomorrow
UPDATE:
PART I
mystery_man has his firearm back.
I accompanied Mystery_Man to the WBPD and he successfully retrieved his firearm. Not much to say about the specifics except that he did not prove ownership.
WBPD did not seem happy to see me (or maybe it was my sidearm?), if looks could kill I would not be posting right now.
MM is a real class act, upon completion of the formalities and ultimate return of his firearm, he preceded to holster it up right there (he wore his empty holster) and tucked his shirt in behind it
We then walked up to the town square to get some pizza and then stood on the sidewalk talking by our parked cars (across from the PD) for about 45 minutes or so.
Other than some dirty looks and even a couple approving looks, WBPD didn't seem to have an issue with our OC today like they did on 6/7
PART II
...tomorrow
Citizen
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asforme
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Pa. Patriot wrote:
Pa. Patriot wrote:
Did he load it and chamber a round? If he did, this dude has way more balls than I do. I would think that would be an invitation to be shot by police.he preceded to holster it up right there (he wore his empty holster) and tucked his shirt in behind it
lprgcFrank
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Pa. Patriot wrote:
:what:What Stones! Outstanding way to get right back into OC!
Pa. Patriot wrote:
... upon completion of the formalities and ultimate return of his firearm, he preceded to holster it up right there (he wore his empty holster) and tucked his shirt in behind it
:what:What Stones! Outstanding way to get right back into OC!
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asforme wrote:
Why would chambering a round in his LAWFUL gun that was ILLEGALY taken and RETURNED by the POLICE take balls ?
Something is either LEGAL or ILLEGAL and having a round IN the chamber is LEGAL now if the police would have taken the gun again when he chambered the round, well THAT would have taken Balls and would probably have lightened the City's bank acct. a little also.
But good job to Mystery_Man and Pa. Patriot :celebrate
Moon Doggie
asforme wrote:
Pa. Patriot wrote:Did he load it and chamber a round? If he did, this dude has way more balls than I do. I would think that would be an invitation to be shot by police.he preceded to holster it up right there (he wore his empty holster) and tucked his shirt in behind it
Why would chambering a round in his LAWFUL gun that was ILLEGALY taken and RETURNED by the POLICE take balls ?
Something is either LEGAL or ILLEGAL and having a round IN the chamber is LEGAL now if the police would have taken the gun again when he chambered the round, well THAT would have taken Balls and would probably have lightened the City's bank acct. a little also.
But good job to Mystery_Man and Pa. Patriot :celebrate
Moon Doggie
Pa. Patriot
State Researcher
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Let's attend WB city council meeting on 7/10...
Discussion thread here:
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum46/12741.html
Let's attend WB city council meeting on 7/10...
Discussion thread here:
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum46/12741.html
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Pa. Patriot
Are you the guy that was arrested in the Dickson City OC Police fiasco? if you are, GOD Bless ya, if not, GOD Bless ya anyway
I am waiting on my CCW Permit as I type this, I tok my class on June 7th and turned in my Application on June 11th, and have been waiting ever since for the"Freedom Call" from the SO telling me to come pick the CCW Permit, I'm worse than a 8 year old at Christmas time
Even when (if) I get my CCW Permit I think I am going to OC a few times a month, but I seriously don't believe that there will be any problems or strange looks because I live in a"Hilljack" heavy County and this sort of thing is accepted and widely know in this County, of course I can OC in Stark County and probably get a different reaction from Stark County residents, then again maybe not as I am NOT from Stark County so maybe it wouldn't be a big thing ?
But keep after the Police until they are educated in laws that the Police SHOULD already be educated in and keep up the GREAT Work!
Pa. Patriot
Are you the guy that was arrested in the Dickson City OC Police fiasco? if you are, GOD Bless ya, if not, GOD Bless ya anyway
I am waiting on my CCW Permit as I type this, I tok my class on June 7th and turned in my Application on June 11th, and have been waiting ever since for the"Freedom Call" from the SO telling me to come pick the CCW Permit, I'm worse than a 8 year old at Christmas time
Even when (if) I get my CCW Permit I think I am going to OC a few times a month, but I seriously don't believe that there will be any problems or strange looks because I live in a"Hilljack" heavy County and this sort of thing is accepted and widely know in this County, of course I can OC in Stark County and probably get a different reaction from Stark County residents, then again maybe not as I am NOT from Stark County so maybe it wouldn't be a big thing ?
But keep after the Police until they are educated in laws that the Police SHOULD already be educated in and keep up the GREAT Work!
Pa. Patriot
State Researcher
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Thanks for the comment, Moon.... Yes, I am "that guy"
Thanks for the comment, Moon.... Yes, I am "that guy"