protector84
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I hate to come on here griping but unfortunately I was involved in another disturbing defensive situation and this situation has definitely confirmed my speculation that this country is in fact going down the tubes. A brief background of me and my situation is that I live in the somewhat central area of a major city and in a lower-range apartment complex. The rent is cheaper and the square footage is greater because of the area that it is in. With these gas prices and the general tanking of the economy I cannot afford a "nice" apartment so I have to live in a somewhat crummy one. I am a white guy and since I live in the Southwest I am naturally surrounded by Mexicans who are continuing to take over this country. In all fairness, the overwhelming majority of my neighbors are friendly and courteous and nobody ever bothers me here so I hope it stays that way.
Anyway, so I'm out with some friends until about 3:45 am last night. I had 1 1/2 beers but by the time I left I was quite sober. After a rather enjoyable night, I pull into my apartment complex hoping to go into some peace and quiet. Instead, I pull into my parking spot only to find close to 50 people covering the entire area. I knew something was wrong right away but once I pull into the spot, I couldn't really get out. Turns out as many as 20 men and women were involved in serious fist fights. These fights were moving quickly in random directions and there were about 5 or 6 different fights in progress with 3-4 people each involved. Now I am trying to get out of my car yet I am surrounded by these animals. The fighting wasn't limited to fists and feet because numerous individuals were chucking beer bottles at others as well as coming at each other with them. Now because of the large number of them and I didn't know who was involved and what the hell was going on, the last thing I wanted to do was get in the middle of it. But to top this off, you have close to 30 people just standing around enjoying the show. That's right. Instead of calling 911 or intervening or doing something to stop the violence, they are standing around watching the fights while many of them were cheering, laughing, and egging the others on. Clearly they were entertaining themselves by watching real-life violence. Some of them had bags of chips in their hands that they were snacking on andothers were drinking beer openly.
I was not in the mood and wanted to safely get to my apartment and go to bed. So I got out of the car with a gun in my hand. I had it out of the holster and walked right through the onlookers and cocked the gun (pulled the slide back) in front of them. This was one of the rare cases where I was in condition 3 and had to convert to condition 1. I continued to walk through them and away from them with a gun in my hand but with the barrel pointing down of course. The nature of the layout and the proximity of these animals required that I go through them to get to my apartment. Apparently the gun trick worked. Once I got past them I heard numerous people yelling "That fool's got a gun...shit he has a gun...he's pissed...did you see that gun" and similar such talk. Once I was in my apartment I could see out the window and all of the onlookers were immediately gone. The bulk of the fighting was gone as well. I had considered calling 911 but I figured if they are all off the property then the situation is resolved at this point. Well it wasn't. 75% of them went off the property and continued the fighting on the nearest streets to the east and west and also on the street to the north. But a few of them were still there. Some of them instead meandered back around and ended up heading towards my front door still beating each other severely and throwing things. That is when I grabbed my shotgun and walked out front with the barrel pointing in the air. They immediately meandered away again.
At this point I picked up my cell phone and dialed 911 while still having the shotgun in the other hand. I told the officer I was armed and that I don't believe any of them were except for the bottles and they said they had multiple calls and were on the way. Apparently, they were already dealing with the fighting that ended up on the outside streets and then had to come in to deal with what was still remaining on the property. Since I knew they were on the way, at this point I retreated to my apartment. Turns out multiple people got arrested and the entire time this was going on, three people were just sitting in their car doing drugs so they all got arrested as well. Once the officers arrived, I did go back out and watch from a reasonable distance. The officers were extremely POed and were actually cussing and yelling at the Mexicans who were doing this and they made several of them go around the property and pick up all of the bottles and other trash before they put them in the paddywagon. I also wasn't tripping when I heard one of them yell at the cop, "What about that white boy over there (pointed at me) waving his gun around at us." The police officer said, "Good" and then took them into custody. None of the officers spoke to me and were not concerned about my actions. I imagine the police are getting tired of this crap as well.
Anyway, guess I made a short story long but I had to vent a little bit. Turns out that three Mexican families were "feuding." I am still POed as I write this. I honestly wanted to fire the shotgun in the air but that probably wouldn't get me anywhere. The truth of the matter is that the neighborhood I live in really isn't all that bad. It is a little bit lower income and does have a higher crime rate but it isn't known to be a "bad area" of the city. Regardless, this kind of stuff shouldn't be happening anywhere and it tells me our society is seriously unhealthy. The fighting and feuding never really bothered me. People have their issues. If they want to kill each other, fine, but just count me out of it. The social sickness of it all is that you have nearly twice the number ofwitnesses out there than the ones fighting and they are there for entertainment. It is one thing to watch violence on TV but people should know that it is not real. People were literally standing around enjoying the fighting. If it is becoming the norm for human beings to enjoy seeing others suffer violent attacks, our culture and civilization is in serious trouble.
ATTN. LAW ENFORCEMENT: Nothing in this thread should be considered to be a legal document of a crime. The material described is not a testimony under oath of events witnessed or committed and nothing said here is a statement of guilt, confession, or an official report. By law, it is considered "hearsay" and no official public statements or descriptions will be made unless under the order of a subpoena and in the court of law. Everything presented here is to be considered "off the record."
I hate to come on here griping but unfortunately I was involved in another disturbing defensive situation and this situation has definitely confirmed my speculation that this country is in fact going down the tubes. A brief background of me and my situation is that I live in the somewhat central area of a major city and in a lower-range apartment complex. The rent is cheaper and the square footage is greater because of the area that it is in. With these gas prices and the general tanking of the economy I cannot afford a "nice" apartment so I have to live in a somewhat crummy one. I am a white guy and since I live in the Southwest I am naturally surrounded by Mexicans who are continuing to take over this country. In all fairness, the overwhelming majority of my neighbors are friendly and courteous and nobody ever bothers me here so I hope it stays that way.
Anyway, so I'm out with some friends until about 3:45 am last night. I had 1 1/2 beers but by the time I left I was quite sober. After a rather enjoyable night, I pull into my apartment complex hoping to go into some peace and quiet. Instead, I pull into my parking spot only to find close to 50 people covering the entire area. I knew something was wrong right away but once I pull into the spot, I couldn't really get out. Turns out as many as 20 men and women were involved in serious fist fights. These fights were moving quickly in random directions and there were about 5 or 6 different fights in progress with 3-4 people each involved. Now I am trying to get out of my car yet I am surrounded by these animals. The fighting wasn't limited to fists and feet because numerous individuals were chucking beer bottles at others as well as coming at each other with them. Now because of the large number of them and I didn't know who was involved and what the hell was going on, the last thing I wanted to do was get in the middle of it. But to top this off, you have close to 30 people just standing around enjoying the show. That's right. Instead of calling 911 or intervening or doing something to stop the violence, they are standing around watching the fights while many of them were cheering, laughing, and egging the others on. Clearly they were entertaining themselves by watching real-life violence. Some of them had bags of chips in their hands that they were snacking on andothers were drinking beer openly.
I was not in the mood and wanted to safely get to my apartment and go to bed. So I got out of the car with a gun in my hand. I had it out of the holster and walked right through the onlookers and cocked the gun (pulled the slide back) in front of them. This was one of the rare cases where I was in condition 3 and had to convert to condition 1. I continued to walk through them and away from them with a gun in my hand but with the barrel pointing down of course. The nature of the layout and the proximity of these animals required that I go through them to get to my apartment. Apparently the gun trick worked. Once I got past them I heard numerous people yelling "That fool's got a gun...shit he has a gun...he's pissed...did you see that gun" and similar such talk. Once I was in my apartment I could see out the window and all of the onlookers were immediately gone. The bulk of the fighting was gone as well. I had considered calling 911 but I figured if they are all off the property then the situation is resolved at this point. Well it wasn't. 75% of them went off the property and continued the fighting on the nearest streets to the east and west and also on the street to the north. But a few of them were still there. Some of them instead meandered back around and ended up heading towards my front door still beating each other severely and throwing things. That is when I grabbed my shotgun and walked out front with the barrel pointing in the air. They immediately meandered away again.
At this point I picked up my cell phone and dialed 911 while still having the shotgun in the other hand. I told the officer I was armed and that I don't believe any of them were except for the bottles and they said they had multiple calls and were on the way. Apparently, they were already dealing with the fighting that ended up on the outside streets and then had to come in to deal with what was still remaining on the property. Since I knew they were on the way, at this point I retreated to my apartment. Turns out multiple people got arrested and the entire time this was going on, three people were just sitting in their car doing drugs so they all got arrested as well. Once the officers arrived, I did go back out and watch from a reasonable distance. The officers were extremely POed and were actually cussing and yelling at the Mexicans who were doing this and they made several of them go around the property and pick up all of the bottles and other trash before they put them in the paddywagon. I also wasn't tripping when I heard one of them yell at the cop, "What about that white boy over there (pointed at me) waving his gun around at us." The police officer said, "Good" and then took them into custody. None of the officers spoke to me and were not concerned about my actions. I imagine the police are getting tired of this crap as well.
Anyway, guess I made a short story long but I had to vent a little bit. Turns out that three Mexican families were "feuding." I am still POed as I write this. I honestly wanted to fire the shotgun in the air but that probably wouldn't get me anywhere. The truth of the matter is that the neighborhood I live in really isn't all that bad. It is a little bit lower income and does have a higher crime rate but it isn't known to be a "bad area" of the city. Regardless, this kind of stuff shouldn't be happening anywhere and it tells me our society is seriously unhealthy. The fighting and feuding never really bothered me. People have their issues. If they want to kill each other, fine, but just count me out of it. The social sickness of it all is that you have nearly twice the number ofwitnesses out there than the ones fighting and they are there for entertainment. It is one thing to watch violence on TV but people should know that it is not real. People were literally standing around enjoying the fighting. If it is becoming the norm for human beings to enjoy seeing others suffer violent attacks, our culture and civilization is in serious trouble.
ATTN. LAW ENFORCEMENT: Nothing in this thread should be considered to be a legal document of a crime. The material described is not a testimony under oath of events witnessed or committed and nothing said here is a statement of guilt, confession, or an official report. By law, it is considered "hearsay" and no official public statements or descriptions will be made unless under the order of a subpoena and in the court of law. Everything presented here is to be considered "off the record."
