You must have large hands.... I own the G22 and that fits nice in the hands.Glock 20 'nuff said:
--Oxblood
Yeah, I know.... It's hard enough to conceal the G22 as a jeans and T-shirt guy.. let alone a G20.Yes I do have big hands Now I just need to figure out how to conceal it in summer garb which for me is jeans and a T-shirt.
--Oxblood
Take the Black Talons out stow them in their original box. Black Talons are going for a premium on places like gunbroker, they are reaching collector status.Colt Combat Commander .45 with Black Talons and Glock 23 with Black Talons.
Off duty a S&W Model 19-4 Combat Magnum or a M65-5 .
loaded with 180 gr Buffalo Bore SWC
Depending on my mood when I was out there G17, XD9, or 1911 clone, all rode in BH SERPA holsters
TFED12 wrote:Take the Black Talons out stow them in their original box. Black Talons are going for a premium on places like gunbroker, they are reaching collector status.Colt Combat Commander .45 with Black Talons and Glock 23 with Black Talons.
Not to mention the Black Talons are old technology and poor performers compared to newer more modern designed hollow points. Such as Gold Dot, HST, EFMJ ect.
Also I wouldn't want to have to argue the point in court when the editrosecution finds out you are running bullets with such a bad PR history, and bullets that have been discontinued for years because of the bad press.
Yes I also base my decission off of facts. I know about all the negetive PR (as was stated in my post). Yes I know that it's not Teflon, yes I know they will not penetrate bullet resistant vests. All these things are and were false info on the Black Talons.
Having been in LE for fifteen years I have had the oportunity to see many bullets perform in ballistic gels. Black Talons being one of them. I agree Gold Dot and others are excellent performers. However, I am making my decision on personal experience and knowledge. Not sure what performance ratings you got your info from. I assume some BAD PRESS. Also, the technlology may be older but the performance is still top of the line. Contrary to some reports and rumors, Black Talons are NOT teflon coated. They area polyjust like the Winchester Supreme Lubaloxand are now and have always been legal. If the performance of the newer hollow points are so much better, then where is theBAD PRESSon THEM. So, I doubt I will be arguing the issue in court.Several of myLE brothers carry BlackTalons. Onebrotheractually used his firearm loaded with Black Talonswhile off duty about eight years ago.No issues in court. I tend not to rely on PRESS but on experience. Even modern deer cartridges are made of the same materials now. And, I have shot deer with .44 mag Talons and others. The Talons perform much better. Another myth is that Talons willpenetrate Bullet proof vests. NOT TRUE. I have seen the test models. In addition. I use bullets for self defense or hunting. Not collecting. Sure, I could get a little money for them but thats just not what I am into. There are plenty of other things I can collect if I so desire. Just my humble two cents of experience.
The Sig P229 in .40SW is a great gun. In fact, that's probably going to be the next one I buy.I carry either a Sig P229 chambered in 40 S&W, or a Bersa .380. I also carry a Tarus pt22 in an ankle holster as backup.
what is thatI carry a govt 1911 wrapped in hogue grips.