Interviewing Inmates

I remember reading something about "condition shite" vs "condition yellow" and hearing about a study conducted where incarcerated violent offenders were shown pictures of people and asked if they would attack that person or not. Something like 95% of the convicts chose the same batch of targets (all condition white people).

I was wondering how we could get a similar study asking violent offenders if the sight of an openly armed citizen would deter them from comitting a crime. My money would be on Deterrence winning the day.

Anyone know a great journalist for a major publication or maybe an academic type person who could do something like this?


I ask because I am really sick of the "Tactical Advantage" argument of the anti-OCers... The fact is that there is no data on the matter and there very well should be!!!

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SNIP I was wondering how we could get a similar study asking violent offenders if the sight of an openly armed citizen would deter them from comitting a crime. My money would be on Deterrence winning the day.

Anyone know a great journalist for a major publication or maybe an academic type person who could do something like this?

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dang, that's scarry. it's never a good thing when you're outnumbered. i wonder if you could have used that cart as a shield between you and them. once you saw them behind you, you could have started to pull the cart behind you instead of pushing it in front of you. if they made a move, you could have pushed the cart back into at least one of them...hopefully allowing you to make a run for it. hindsight is 20-20 though, huh?

glad you came out of that unhurt.

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Oh, the above post reminded me of something. I am almost certain that I was not robbed a couple months ago because these two people thought I was armed. It was before I had a handgun. All I had on me was a knife, but my actions made them think twice IMO. I will never know for certain whether or not they intended to rob me, but I was convinced of it at the time and I still am to this day. Note that this is the only time that I can recall thinking I was about to be attacked and robbed, so it's not just that I'm always paranoid about it or something.

I was going to a grocery store to get food, it was late at night though. I was driving my Miata though, and it has pretty much every suspension upgrade you can do to it, so it sits a few inches off the ground. It also has a double diagonal roll bar and white 15" wheels, so it stands out in general. This grocery store is in a complex that has short speed bumps that are incredibly tall. My car bottoms out on these speed bumps, so I don't go all the way into the complex as a result. Instead I park in the entrance to the complex, which happens to be on the left side of the grocery store. The complex is set up in a strange manner though, which I'll detail in a picture below. Basically I have to walk through this alley-like thing that has a roof to get to the front of the building the grocery store is in.

Well, when I got out of my car, two young black males dressed in thuggish clothing were standing on the other side from me on a street that ran through this complex. They were standing in front of closed stores in a dimly lit area for no reason. I had noticed them before I got out and I noticed that they were looking over my way and talking. As soon as I got out, they briskly crossed the street headed right for that alley I was walking towards. They were moving at a quick pace and appeared to have some "intent" behind their movement, it did not appear to be random timing that they were headed to the same alley I was and wanted to get there at the same time. Someone had left a shopping cart at the entrance to the alley, so I grabbed it and started walking forward.

As I started walking with the cart, they came up to the entrance of the alley and started to come around behind me. I was on the left side right near the wall, so at this point it was clearl that they wanted to do something to me. I knew at this point that there was something going on, because the alley was very wide and if they were walking somewhere quickly, they would have wanted to pass me, not walk directly behind me.

So I turned my head a little more than 90 degrees to the right and simultaneously leaned forward with my left arm on the cart and put my hand in my right cargo pocket, gripped my Ka-Bar TDI and using my thumb, popped the sheath off with it still in my pocket. I was looking right at them and I noticed them both slow down and look at my hand in my pocket. They waited and kept following me, I think it was to try to see what was in my pocket, and I just kept walking forward looking back at them with my hand in my pocket. When I got to the end of the alley and was in view of the front of the store they stopped and stayed in the alley. I am convinced they were about to try to rob me because they saw my car and thought it was nice and that I'd have money, plus I was in a decent spot for them to rob someone.

That further enforced my desire for a handgun and I got one not too long after that occurred.

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Another way might be to ask a number of folks that have used OC for 5yrs or more how many run-ins they've had with bad guys since day one?.

I'll bet you'de be hard pressed to find 1 in a 1000.

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Condition shyte!! That is my favorite word y0.

You mispelled shyte though.

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I am a corrections officer. A jailer. Inmates ARE scared of people withguns.

I have about 50 work release inmates under my care when I work. Almost all have exhibited a morbid curiousity of what I carry out side of the jail. (I cannot be armed in the jail but, do not take myholster off). I reply "A Glock 21. All the time". Their reply? "Man! I wouldn't f*** with you!"

In addition, I have asked some about whether or not they would mess with anybody with a gun. NO....They won't.

When off duty, I never show my badge and I carry open almost everywhere.

FYI....I've been carryingfor about 53 years. I was 13 and had a paper route when I carried my Dad's .38 special.

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