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    Can anyone tell me if there is a law against carrying at John Martin Reservoir. I went there yesterday, and was told by a park ranger there is no carrying on state park land.
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    It's a Colorado State Park. You are permitted to carry concealed (with proper documentation of course) regardless of what some greenie ranger says. Open Carry can be regulated, but signage MUST be posted before they can start raising hell about you OCing.

    18-12-214. Authority granted by permit - carrying restrictions.
    (1) (a) A permit to carry a concealed handgun authorizes the permittee to carry a concealed handgun in all areas of the state, except as specifically limited in this section. A permit does not authorize the permittee to use a handgun in a manner that would violate a provision of state law. A local government does not have authority to adopt or enforce an ordinance or resolution that would conflict with any provision of this part 2.

    (b) A peace officer may temporarily disarm a permittee, incident to a lawful stop of the permittee. The peace officer shall return the handgun to the permittee prior to discharging the permittee from the scene.

    (2) A permit issued pursuant to this part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun into a place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law.

    (3) A permit issued pursuant to this part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun onto the real property, or into any improvements erected thereon, of a public elementary, middle, junior high, or high school; except that:

    (a) A permittee may have a handgun on the real property of the public school so long as the handgun remains in his or her vehicle and, if the permittee is not in the vehicle, the handgun is in a compartment within the vehicle and the vehicle is locked.

    (b) A permittee who is employed or retained by contract by a school district as a school security officer may carry a concealed handgun onto the real property, or into any improvement erected thereon, of a public elementary, middle, junior high, or high school while the permittee is on duty.

    (c) A permittee may carry a concealed handgun on undeveloped real property owned by a school district that is used for hunting or other shooting sports.

    (4) A permit issued pursuant to this part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun into a public building at which:

    (a) Security personnel and electronic weapons screening devices are permanently in place at each entrance to the building;

    (b) Security personnel electronically screen each person who enters the building to determine whether the person is carrying a weapon of any kind; and

    (c) Security personnel require each person who is carrying a weapon of any kind to leave the weapon in possession of security personnel while the person is in the building.

    (5) Nothing in this part 2 shall be construed to limit, restrict, or prohibit in any manner the existing rights of a private property owner, private tenant, private employer, or private business entity.

    (6) The provisions of this section apply to temporary emergency permits issued pursuant to section 18-12-209.

    Source: L. 2003: Entire part added, p. 647, ยง 1, effective May 17.

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    Thanks, Evil Ernie. It's what I figured, but wanted to run it by you guys first.

    Incidentally, since I first posted about OC'ing in Bent and Otero counties, I have been mostly OC'ing, even in my little town of Las Animas. No person unknown to me has said a word. People I know seem kinda surprised, but are OK with it. No incidents, so far with numerous visits at Walmart in La Junta.

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    libertyrules wrote:
    Can anyone tell me if there is a law against carrying at John Martin Reservoir. I went there yesterday, and was told by a park ranger there is no carrying on state park land.

    The ranger is incorrect. The Colorado State Parks 2008 Regulations specifically permit licensed concealed carry:

    "#106 a: It shall be unlawful:

    1. To possess carry or discharge explosives, firearms, and/or other weapons on parks and outdoor recreation lands or waters in any manner that violates Title 18 C.R.S or any other applicable law. The lawful carry of concealed handguns by persons in possession of a valid concealed handgun permit, together with valid photo identification is permitted."

    These regulations can be checked on the Colorado State Parks website, and in paper copies of the regulations which can be found at many park visitor centers.

    Cherry Creek State Park even has a public rifle/shotgun/pistol range inside the park.


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    Another good find by Anubis. Colorado State Pre-emption definitely governs over State Parks.

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    Evil Ernie wrote:
    Another good find by Anubis. Colorado State Pre-emption definitely governs over State Parks.
    Thank you. I always carried in state parks, relying on the fact that the CRS-listed prohibited areas do not include state parks. The first time I saw #106, I was gratified to see that the state park deparment explicitly acknowledged that fact.

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    Thanks Anubis - I found the .pdf file of the 2008 State Park Regulations. Pertaining to CC, it's in Article lV, #106, as you said. It's on page eleven.

    Here's the web address:

    http://parks.state.co.us/NR/rdonlyre...egulations.pdf

    Thanks again.
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