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    Tomorrow at 2:30 I'll be going before the Livingston County Gun Board for my interview-thingy. I'm slightly worried about a vew things that I've heard. My CPL instructor said that when they asked why I wanted the CPL to say it was for protection. He was based out of Royal Oak and didn't know too much about Livingston, though. One of my highschool friends who has the interview on the same day said that his instructor told him to say anything BUT "for personal protection". This leaves me with a big WTF. This guy also told me that people our age will probably not recieve our licenses that day, but will be put on a "120-day cooldown period" Again, WTF?

    So, two questions.

    A: What should I say in response to "why do you want a permit" and what other questions might they ask?

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    B: Has anyone else ever heard of this 120-day cooldown? Is such a thing even legal? Who do they give that to?

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    WTF....

    If not for protection then what? Should you tell them you have a small pee pee and a big gun will help you deal with it? Your friends instructor is a moron if he told him that.

    It's simple:

    "I wish to obtain a CPL for the protection of myself and my loved ones."



    Sorry, never heard of the 120 day thing.



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    Rogue9er wrote:
    Tomorrow at 2:30 I'll be going before the Livingston County Gun Board for my interview-thingy. I'm slightly worried about a vew things that I've heard. My CPL instructor said that when they asked why I wanted the CPL to say it was for protection. He was based out of Royal Oak and didn't know too much about Livingston, though. One of my highschool friends who has the interview on the same day said that his instructor told him to say anything BUT "for personal protection". This leaves me with a big WTF. This guy also told me that people our age will probably not recieve our licenses that day, but will be put on a "120-day cooldown period" Again, WTF?

    So, two questions.

    A: What should I say in response to "why do you want a permit" and what other questions might they ask?

    and

    B: Has anyone else ever heard of this 120-day cooldown? Is such a thing even legal? Who do they give that to?
    This is the craziest thing I"ve heard so far about getting a CPL. The correct answer is for personal protection thats the whole point of having a CPL. The 120 day cooldown period does not exist counties can't make up laws pertaining to obtaining a CPL. As long as your over the age of 21 you'll be fine. They can't use your age against you thats against the law. This is directly from the Michigan State Police web site.

    Once county gun board receives the fingerprint comparison report, they will issue or deny the license within 45 days.

    Some other questions they may ask you is where can you not carry a concealed pistol: a bar, school, church, federal building, etc. Nothing tricky at all, don't worry about what your friend said your gonna walk into that gun board, and then walk out with your CPL. I live in Saginaw County and I was in there maybe 10 minutes at the most.

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    Wow, thanks guys. Hopefully I will be walking out of there with my license. How do I know whether or not they have recieved the fingerprint comparison?

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    because they have called you infront of the board

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    MCL 28.425b provides, in part, the following:
    (13) Subject to subsections (10) and (14), the concealed weapon licensing board shall issue or deny issuance of a license within 45 days after the concealed weapon licensing board receives the fingerprint comparison report provided under subsection (10). If the concealed weapon licensing board denies issuance of a license to carry a concealed pistol, the concealed weapon licensing board shall within 5 business days do both of the following:
    (a) Inform the applicant in writing of the reasons for the denial. Information under this subdivision shall include all of the following:

    (i) A statement of the specific and articulable facts supporting the denial.

    (ii) Copies of any writings, photographs, records, or other documentary evidence upon which the denial is based.

    (b) Inform the applicant in writing of his or her right to appeal the denial to the circuit court as provided in section 5d.

    (14) If the fingerprint comparison report is not received by the concealed weapon licensing board within 60 days after the fingerprint report is forwarded to the department of state police by the federal bureau of investigation, the concealed weapon licensing board shall issue a temporary license to carry a concealed pistol to the applicant if the applicant is otherwise qualified for a license. A temporary license issued under this section is valid for 180 days or until the concealed weapon licensing board receives the fingerprint comparison report provided under subsection (10) and issues or denies issuance of a license to carry a concealed pistol as otherwise provided under this act. Upon issuance or the denial of issuance of the license to carry a concealed pistol to an applicant who received a temporary license under this section, the applicant shall immediately surrender the temporary license to the concealed weapon licensing board that issued that temporary license.
    They cannot drag you through a 120-day wait.
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    Interview? What interview?

    I had a buddy take his CPL course at Double Action in Oakland Co. He never had an interview. I took mine in the EUP and never had an interview. I know many more people from over the State that never had an interview.....never heard of such a thing.



    This is how mine went. I went in 2 weeks before the class and paid $110 for the class and $40 to renew my membership at the shooting association. Then I went to the class...sat through 2 hrs. of instruction and then shot about 300 rounds on the range in various postions for about4 hours. After that we went back to the classroom and later had an attorney come in and speak for an hour. The whole class was about 10 hours total. The following Monday I took the paperwork up to the county clerks office, paid $110 and I was on my way with a receipt saying that I paid for my CPL and my figerprints. I went home and got online to register for my fingerprint date for Wednesday. Went in and did that. A month later I got a letter saying my CPL was ready for pick-up which I picked up that same day. I signed the back and she laminated it...done deal.


    Yes, my application did go before the gun board which meets the first Friday of the month. I did not have to be present though.

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    In Livingston you have to be present. If only I lived a few miles to the East...

    Thanks for the cite, WVCDL.

    I'm not sure how I'll handle it if they try to stall me.

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    Rogue9er wrote:
    Tomorrow at 2:30 I'll be going before the Livingston County Gun Board for my interview-thingy. I'm slightly worried about a vew things that I've heard. My CPL instructor said that when they asked why I wanted the CPL to say it was for protection. He was based out of Royal Oak and didn't know too much about Livingston, though. One of my highschool friends who has the interview on the same day said that his instructor told him to say anything BUT "for personal protection". This leaves me with a big WTF. This guy also told me that people our age will probably not recieve our licenses that day, but will be put on a "120-day cooldown period" Again, WTF?

    So, two questions.

    A: What should I say in response to "why do you want a permit" and what other questions might they ask?

    and

    B: Has anyone else ever heard of this 120-day cooldown? Is such a thing even legal? Who do they give that to?
    For all lawful purposes is a good answer.
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    Rogue9er wrote:
    Tomorrow at 2:30 I'll be going before the Livingston County Gun Board for my interview-thingy. I'm slightly worried about a vew things that I've heard. My CPL instructor said that when they asked why I wanted the CPL to say it was for protection. He was based out of Royal Oak and didn't know too much about Livingston, though. One of my highschool friends who has the interview on the same day said that his instructor told him to say anything BUT "for personal protection". This leaves me with a big WTF. This guy also told me that people our age will probably not recieve our licenses that day, but will be put on a "120-day cooldown period" Again, WTF?

    So, two questions.

    A: What should I say in response to "why do you want a permit" and what other questions might they ask?

    and

    B: Has anyone else ever heard of this 120-day cooldown? Is such a thing even legal? Who do they give that to?
    There is no right answer... You don't need a reason for getting your CPL.

    I told the board in Saginaw County that I wanted it to make it easier to purchase a lot of handguns...

    Unless I'm wrong, shall issue means if you qualify, you get one, and answering that question is not part of the requirements

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    I got my CPL in Livingston County and they did not ask me why I wanted it. They only went through the questions on the applicaiton verbally and then gave me the card.

    Good luck, but I don't think you should need it. :-)

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    Great success!

    After waiting for 20 mins, it was in, out; wham, bam, thank you ma'am. Laminated it right in front of me.

    Thanks for all the answers.

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    Rogue9er wrote:
    Great success!

    After waiting for 20 mins, it was in, out; wham, bam, thank you ma'am. Laminated it right in front of me.

    Thanks for all the answers.
    Congrats Rogue!!! Bet you're breathing easier. :celebrate

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    gratz Rogue9er, hearing words like board, official, can be kind of intimidating. glad it went well. carry safe, and carry often.

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    Congrats indeed!

    My good friend, a Sheriff's Captain told me when I got mine to carry every day without fail. That is good advise.


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    Congrats indeed!

    My good friend, a Sheriff's Captain told me when I got mine to carry every day without fail. That is good advise.
    Rick?

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    Nope.

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    Nope.
    I took my best shot (no pun intended) with you being in Fenton, I thought you may have meant GCSD. Good meeting youat the Burton picnic.

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    Congrats, and glad to hear it worked out for you.

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    I may have to put up with an over abundance of left-wing local politicians, but I am SO happy I'm in Ingham County. Through both my original application, and my first renewal, never had to go before the board. Just got a post card in the mail saying I could pick up my permit at the County clerk's office.



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    Edited because I want to start a different thread

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    rogue how old are you ifi might ask?

    reason being i am 26 but still worried about being judged by my age and that is pretty much the only reason i have yet to try for my cpl.

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    Steve, Michigan law says they can't judge you by your age. As long as you are 21 and older, have no felony convictions, and don't have certain misdemeanor convictions within a certain timeline, and are otherwise not disqualified, they have to issue your CPL, unless there's some reason to think you might be a danger to yourself and/or the community.

    APPLY!!!!
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    only other problem i have is"Section 904(1) of the



    (there was alot more to this post i dunno what happened)

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    Ok, so you have to wait 8 years from the date of the conviction. After that, apply.

    Hey, crap happens.
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