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    First let's Re-Cap on Hurricane Katrina and the Gun Confiscation of the Big Easy.

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    And now here we are in the present. The Northern Flood today is taking it's toll on many citizens. Although not quite like Katrina and N.O., the same Government Corruption seems to be rearing it's Ugly Head !

    Skip to the Bottom to watch the short Video. I'm sure more will be popping up soon ....

    Cops break down doors, threaten residents who question them as part of martial law conditioning, authorities prevent people from re-entering their homes

    Shocking footage out of Cedar Rapids Iowa shows cops and government employee "strike teams" breaking into houses of flood victims and threatening anyone who questions their actions in complete violation of the 4th amendment right that protects against unlawful search and seizure.

    No warrant, no knock home invasions are being carried out on the flimsy pretext of "checking for structural damage" as cops harass and threaten with arrest people who refuse to have their homes ransacked by thugs in uniforms.

    Cedar Rapids police chief Greg Graham promised residents over the weekend that "Law enforcement officers are not entering homes," and that firefighters would only enter homes through unlocked doors and windows yet the video clearly shows locked houses being broken in to.

    People who attempt to gain access to their home before it has been "cleared" by authorities are being apprehended, and those who attempt to drive around police checkpoints that have been set up in the affected areas are arrested at gunpoint.

    "Each strike team consisted of six or seven people, including police, firefighters, utilities workers, and city employees," reports the Iowa Gazette.

    Angela Tague, a member of the STAR 1 search and rescue team from Ames, ran into any angry homeowner on E Avenue NW.

    "He was saying 'Where do you live?' and 'How would you like it if someone busted your door open?," Tague said.

    Police Officer Josh Bell later had a heated exchange with the man, and told him that if he didn't go back inside his house and stop harassing the strike team, he would be escorted out of the area.

    The man was visibly agitated about his broken door and pointed at Bell.

    "It's wrong," the man said, over and over.

    So people who are uncomfortable with jackbooted thugs breaking down their door without even knocking and express their distaste for it are to blame for "harassing the strike team"?

    Respondents to the You Tube clip and the newspaper article expressed their outrage at the behavior of those in the video tasked with "helping" flood-stricken people yet doing nothing more than intimidating and invading their homes.

    "You break down the door of my private residence and when I object you threaten to escort me off my own property. Fine example of police work. Did anyone think to knock first? Thomas Jefferson said that the main reason for citizens to be armed was to protect themselves from tyrannical government. If this isn't tyranny then I don't know what is. A man's home is his castle," states Steve Delaloye.

    "A sad day for America when government thugs abuse the trust of the citizenry like this," writes one.

    "So these cops and fire fighters are part time structural engineers, or what?? What are they inspecting for in the structures? Gas and electric could be shut off at the source, and any spills are so diluted they wont catch fire. The police chief said no police would enter any homes, and what do you know, mr fat butt cop goes piling through the window thinking he's T.J Hooker. dang, this is just sad, sad , sad," adds another.

    One Iowa resident expresses her anger that authorities will not let her re-enter her home.

    "I sit here with tears streaming down my face. I have been trying to be patient and await to enter my home. Now today, I am told there will be no re-entry's until further notice. I cannot express how ****ing mad I am. I understand the houses can be unsafe. Just let me at least see my house, so that I can assess if it hit my top floor. I have pictures and memories on my top floor of my deceased mother, all I want to do is rescue those," she writes.

    As we reported in 2005, Hurricane Katrina was exploited by the federal government and used as a martial law drill while victims were abused and treated like rats in a laboratory.

    Door to door gun confiscations were ordered and cops ransacked homes and took weapons from multi-million dollar homes which were in the high and dry areas and completely unaffected by the hurricane. In some cases, residents were kicked out of their own homes for no reason.

    Outrageous footage showed cops seizing handguns from the home of a grief-stricken old women as they assaulted and punched her in the face.


    Where does the government think it derives the authority from to break into people's homes whose lives have already been devastated by massive floods on the flimsiest of pretexts?

    The 4th amendment states, "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

    Even if there was a legitimate reason to inspect homes, why on earth do they not even bother to knock on the door?

    Cops immediately attempt to break in or climb through windows uninvited because this procedure is all about sending a message - when a crisis unfolds we are the bosses and you - the peasants - will yield to our tyranny.

    Lawsuits need to be filed immediately by people in Iowa and elsewhere who have had cops invade their homes in complete violation of the 4th amendment and a pretext needs to be set that will put a stop to the government's routine exploitation of natural disasters as an opportunity to impose martial law measures on needy victims that have already had their lives devastated.

    With reports indicating that the Mississippi river is in danger of bursting its banks, the precedent that was set with Hurricane Katrina could be set to advance as government minions and jackbooted thugs across the country lick their lips at the prospect of kicking down more doors and harassing innocent people.

    Contact the Iowa ACLU and demand they pressure the authorities to stop these illegal home invasions immediately.



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    I have to say, whatever coding is being used here, is extremly aggravating !



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    But da gubmint is possa hep us. Why dey doin dis business?

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    June 18, 2008 These government bureaucrats should be removed from office for allowing these checkpoints to be setup and not allowing people to go back to their homes.

    Government terrorists are continuing their agenda of terrorizing the American people and destroying individual liberty. Using the guise of keeping people safe from the floods in Iowa, uniformed terrorists are setting up Nazi like checkpoints forbidding people from going back to their homes. These checkpoints are not only unnecessary but also illegal as people should not be forbidden from going back to their own private property because some Nazi in a uniform is claiming that they are blocking the road for the purposes of public safety. People have the right to travel freely regardless of what these uniformed terrorists say. Like Hurricane Katrina, the government is taking advantage of this disaster to setup a system of control that Hitler and Stalin would have approved of. These government terrorists need to be held accountable for unlawfully violating the Constitutional rights of American citizens. It doesn’t matter if there’s a flood, earthquake, tornado or an invasion by space aliens, the Constitution is still the supreme law of the land. The government does not have the right to block law abiding citizens from their own private property regardless of the situation.

    A perfect example of these government terrorists in action was an incident reported by this Associated Press report on these unconstitutional checkpoints.

    Police twice caught a man in his flood-damaged home before the property had been cleared by city inspectors. But Rick Blazek vowed to return — even if he had to sneak behind bushes.

    “Once I’m in there, I’m not coming out unless they have handcuffs and leg shackles,” he pledged Sunday at a checkpoint where authorities were limiting access.

    That’s what happened Monday when officers pulled Blazek out of his pickup after he tried to run a checkpoint. When he allegedly bumped an Iowa state trooper with the truck, police drew their guns, broke a window on his vehicle and wrestled Blazek out. He was charged with assaulting an officer.

    Blazek was among thousands of flood victims frustrated by authorities’ decision Monday to cut off access to flood-damaged homes because of safety concerns. About 25,000 people have had to leave their homes since the Cedar River began flooding.

    This is entirely ridiculous. The so called police officers are the real criminals by infringing on this man’s right to freely travel. At the very least, these individuals should be charged with destruction of property for breaking Mr. Blazek’s truck window and be required to compensate him accordingly. Here is a man who was simply trying to access his private property. These government goon squads had no right to block this man from his private property in the name of public safety. This man was not infringing on anyone else’s liberty and should have been left alone. The fact that he bumped one of these goons with his automobile would not have happened if these uniformed terrorists weren’t unlawfully blocking the road and preventing people from accessing their private property. The fact that he is being charged with assaulting an officer is absurd. He’s not the one terrorizing homeowners by not letting them access their private property.

    What is really insane about this whole deal is that while people are not allowed to access their homes, these inspectors from the government are allowed to wander around to people’s property for safety purposes. This is a recipe for corruption. How can people be assured that their homes are not being looted by these so called government officials? Governments have time and time again proven to be one of the most corrupt and criminal institutions in the history of mankind. If you don’t believe this to be true, take a look at the looting and pillaging that is currently taking place by the crooks in the federal government.

    In Iowa City, the Mayor actually ordered hundreds of people to evacuate their homes. This government bureaucrat has no right to order people to leave their private property regardless of the situation. If people believe the conditions are unsafe, they’ll leave, if not, they’ll stay. It is up to the individual to make that decision, not the government.

    These government bureaucrats should be removed from office for allowing these checkpoints to be setup and not allowing people to go back to their homes. In addition, it is disgraceful that these uniformed terrorists are enforcing these unconstitutional orders. With insanity like this going on, this country is gone. We can certainly expect more of this as this nation descends further into the depths of the New World Order.
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    RESOLVED:

    Should a disaster of any type occur in my immediate neighborhood in the future, I shall mobilize a group of armed neighbors to take control of the neighborhood from marauding jack booted thugs of any stripe. Barricades shall be set up in all ingresses, fortified lookouts posted, armed neighbors massed. Spray painted warnings at ingresses for government agents to Keep Out without property owner permission. All residents wishing toevacuate the area shall be permitted to pass, in or out.

    Bring your black helicopters and armored vehicles atperil of national rebellion. Slaughter of innocent civilians demanding freedom from government intrusion will not be acceptable.

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    I agree with Nelson_Muntz, that is exactly what the citizenry should do, take control of the situation.

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    Nelson_Muntz wrote:
    RESOLVED:

    Should a disaster of any type occur in my immediate neighborhood in the future, I shall mobilize a group of armed neighbors to take control of the neighborhood from marauding jack booted thugs of any stripe. Barricades shall be set up in all ingresses, fortified lookouts posted, armed neighbors massed. Spray painted warnings at ingresses for government agents to Keep Out without property owner permission. All residents wishing toevacuate the area shall be permitted to pass, in or out.

    Bring your black helicopters and armored vehicles atperil of national rebellion. Slaughter of innocent civilians demanding freedom from government intrusion will not be acceptable.
    Amen.

    With this kind of unconscionable and vile disgusting behavior on the part of our servants, John Ross' "Unintended Consequences" may yet come to pass.

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    I get furious watching the first 1:12 seconds of this video.

    She had the gun in her hand for the first 10 minutes the cops are talking to her.

    They demand the gun, she says no, then they Jump her.

    Completely Stupid Cops !

    Remember that's New Orleans, not Iowa

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    I think when he said death, he meant that they deserve the same fate as anybody who breaks into your house would get.

    If an armed man breaks into my house, I will shoot.

    This is what they are doing, they are armed men breaking into homes.

    The badge should make no difference if they are doing something illegal.

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    Government terrorists are continuing their agenda of terrorizing the American people and destroying individual liberty. Using the guise of keeping people safe from the floods in Iowa, uniformed terrorists are setting up Nazi like checkpoints forbidding people from going back to their homes. These checkpoints are not only unnecessary but also illegal as people should not be forbidden from going back to their own private property because some Nazi in a uniform is claiming that they are blocking the road for the purposes of public safety. People have the right to travel freely regardless of what these uniformed terrorists say. Like Hurricane Katrina, the government is taking advantage of this disaster to setup a system of control that Hitler and Stalin would have approved of. These government terrorists need to be held accountable for unlawfully violating the Constitutional rights of American citizens. It doesn’t matter if there’s a flood, earthquake, tornado or an invasion by space aliens, the Constitution is still the supreme law of the land. The government does not have the right to block law abiding citizens from their own private property regardless of the situation.

    A perfect example of these government terrorists in action was an incident reported by this Associated Press report on these unconstitutional checkpoints.
    Police twice caught a man in his flood-damaged home before the property had been cleared by city inspectors. But Rick Blazek vowed to return — even if he had to sneak behind bushes.
    “Once I’m in there, I’m not coming out unless they have handcuffs and leg shackles,” he pledged Sunday at a checkpoint where authorities were limiting access.
    That’s what happened Monday when officers pulled Blazek out of his pickup after he tried to run a checkpoint. When he allegedly bumped an Iowa state trooper with the truck, police drew their guns, broke a window on his vehicle and wrestled Blazek out. He was charged with assaulting an officer.
    Blazek was among thousands of flood victims frustrated by authorities’ decision Monday to cut off access to flood-damaged homes because of safety concerns. About 25,000 people have had to leave their homes since the Cedar River began flooding.
    This is entirely ridiculous. The so called police officers are the real criminals by infringing on this man’s right to freely travel. At the very least, these individuals should be charged with destruction of property for breaking Mr. Blazek’s truck window and be required to compensate him accordingly. Here is a man who was simply trying to access his private property. These government goon squads had no right to block this man from his private property in the name of public safety. This man was not infringing on anyone else’s liberty and should have been left alone. The fact that he bumped one of these goons with his automobile would not have happened if these uniformed terrorists weren’t unlawfully blocking the road and preventing people from accessing their private property. The fact that he is being charged with assaulting an officer is absurd. He’s not the one terrorizing homeowners by not letting them access their private property.
    What is really insane about this whole deal is that while people are not allowed to access their homes, these inspectors from the government are allowed to wander around to people’s property for safety purposes. This is a recipe for corruption. How can people be assured that their homes are not being looted by these so called government officials? Governments have time and time again proven to be one of the most corrupt and criminal institutions in the history of mankind. If you don’t believe this to be true, take a look at the looting and pillaging that is currently taking place by the crooks in the federal government.
    In Iowa City, the Mayor actually ordered hundreds of people to evacuate their homes. This government bureaucrat has no right to order people to leave their private property regardless of the situation. If people believe the conditions are unsafe, they’ll leave, if not, they’ll stay. It is up to the individual to make that decision, not the government.
    These government bureaucrats should be removed from office for allowing these checkpoints to be setup and not allowing people to go back to their homes. In addition, it is disgraceful that these uniformed terrorists are enforcing these unconstitutional orders. With insanity like this going on, this country is gone. We can certainly expect more of this as this nation descends further into the depths of the New World Order.


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    I know it does, and no they were not punished as they should have been.

    Something needs to be done, If people were to take action and provide for their own security, then this would not happen.

    As was said before, the citizens should take control of the situation, and not allow government in.

    Then see how they react.

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    Sheriff wrote:
    thx997303 wrote:
    The badge should make no difference if they are doing something illegal.
    It shouldn't make any difference. But it does.

    No, you are wrong Sheriff. Double tap 'em. They bleed and die just like any other thug.

    The ability to provide a potent violent response to tyranny, not hunting, is what the 2A is all about.


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    unfortunately, that carries stiffer penalties then if you shot anyone without a badge.

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    Citizens in Iowa (not the freest of states in many ways) may be angered enough by this to finally get their legislators to pass appropriate laws to prohibit this in the future. Much of that would be illegal in MO under laws passed directly in response to the abuses after Katrina. Not saying the MO law is perfect but better apparently than what they have in Iowa.

    Sometimes people need to be the victims of such abuse before they realize how many precious liberties have been compromised and to get angry enough to demand their representatives appropriately restrict such emergency personnel behavior in the future.
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    Have there been any reports on CRPD doing "smash & grab" raids on private homes for firearms yet? I haven't seen any so far.

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    Sheriff wrote:
    Sorry. I still think wishing DEATH upon a police officer who is simply obeying unlawful orders is pretty far over the line. I'm not saying the cops are right in what they are doing, they are just innocent pawns and are afraid of losing their jobs and benefit packages if they don't go out there and do what their superiors tell them to do.
    There is a line that cannot be crossed. When a government agent uses tyranical means to harm otherwise innocent civilians, where is the line?

    Is it when they order you from your house at gunpoint?

    Is it when they unlawfully try to disarm you and leave you defenseless?

    Where is the line between patriot and criminal?

    Sheriff you usually seem reasonable, but police officershave taken a sacred vow to uphold the constitution to become police officers. Do you think that the police that violate constitutional rights under threat of violence are not culpable because they don't want to loose their government benefits package?

    Use offirearms is a serious matter, but that is what the 2A provides me with to root out tyranny. The constitution does not provide for an NFL squad to reorient tyrants.

    I prey that I will always live in a free land and that I do not have to harm any human being.


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    johnnyb wrote:
    i agree, and i didn't say those people SHOULD kill them (or attempt) I said they DESERVED DEATH.

    which they do.


    I've seen and been apart of some stupid screw ups in combat overseas. Sometimes you get caught up in the moment.

    Should I die for these mistakes ?



    Although I feel what happen was extremely repulsive, I still think punishment other than Death is appropriate. I kow some of those LEO's. Some where so confused they didn't know what the heck was going on.

    Eitherway they could have said "NO, I'M NOT GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS VIOLATION."

    I suspect those who thru their badges out the window as they were leaving might have been the one's I'm refering to. Maybe.

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    Sheriff wrote:
    Sorry. I still think wishing DEATH upon a police officer who is simply obeying unlawful orders is pretty far over the line. I'm not saying the cops are right in what they are doing, they are just innocent pawns and are afraid of losing their jobs and benefit packages if they don't go out there and do what their superiors tell them to do.
    Innocent pawns should go out and push other innocent pawns aroundso they don't have to worry about loosing their job and bennies???????

    If their superiors tell them to go out and kill someone should they so they don't have to worry about loosing their job and bennies???????
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    Someone needs to do something, The line must be drawn.

    They are not innocent, they have decided to follow an unlawful order.

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    I think 'just following orders' was covered at Nuremburg.

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    Ugh, yes lets advocate shooting cops some more on this forum. Lovely. Just friggin' lovely.

    I don't know how I would deal with some sort of forcible entry like this. I live on my sailboat, so flooding really doesn't worry me, and the coast guard already has the right to board my vessel to check for complaince with federal law.

    That said the best solution to these "strike teams" is for citizens to pass meaningful legislation in their states to ensure it can't happen.

    I don't know if it could happen in Washington, our privacy protections are much stronger than most states as the state Supreme Court recently reminded some Lacey Police Officers who obtained a search warrant based on a drug tip from a home repairman. Long story short, cops made a mistake and looked where they shouldn't have in order to get a warrant, and the whole thing was thrown out based on strong constitutional protections. Still wouldn't hurt to lobby here for some laws to prevent "strike teams" or such.

    But jeez people, the gung ho attitude here is disturbing sometimes. If you want to advocate shooting cops who break down your door, do it in private please.

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    do you advocate shooting other criminals when they break down your door? if you do, you're a hypocrit. because both parties are doing something illegal.

    in washington you do not have the right to defend your property with deadly force. in states with "castle" laws... its relevant. if the police bust into your house illegally, why should they have special protections compared to the common criminal.

    sv_libertarian wrote:
    Ugh, yes lets advocate shooting cops some more on this forum. Lovely. Just friggin' lovely.

    I don't know how I would deal with some sort of forcible entry like this. I live on my sailboat, so flooding really doesn't worry me, and the coast guard already has the right to board my vessel to check for complaince with federal law.

    That said the best solution to these "strike teams" is for citizens to pass meaningful legislation in their states to ensure it can't happen.

    I don't know if it could happen in Washington, our privacy protections are much stronger than most states as the state Supreme Court recently reminded some Lacey Police Officers who obtained a search warrant based on a drug tip from a home repairman. Long story short, cops made a mistake and looked where they shouldn't have in order to get a warrant, and the whole thing was thrown out based on strong constitutional protections. Still wouldn't hurt to lobby here for some laws to prevent "strike teams" or such.

    But jeez people, the gung ho attitude here is disturbing sometimes. If you want to advocate shooting cops who break down your door, do it in private please.

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    Sheriff wrote:
    Sorry. I still think wishing DEATH upon a police officer who is simply obeying unlawful orders is pretty far over the line. I'm not saying the cops are right in what they are doing, they are just innocent pawns and are afraid of losing their jobs and benefit packages if they don't go out there and do what their superiors tell them to do.
    Usually agree with you, Sheriff, but not this time. The Nazi death camp guards used that excuse. It didn't work for them and it doesn't hold up now. If someone kicks in my front door, cop or just another type of thug without a badge, I'll put the first one between his eyes, in case he's wearing body armor. They don't suspend the constitution just because it rains.
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