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    I'm making this topic for people who OC inthe Fresno/Clovis area. Lets here some stories

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    Hell, they issue CCWs over there. Why would they want to open carrry?

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    calmp9 wrote:
    Hell, they issue CCWs over there. Why would they want to open carrry?
    Maybe because they don't want to beg for permission from the Government to exercise a right!

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    i dont want to conceal carry. i want to open carry.

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    poothrowingape wrote:
    i dont want to conceal carry. i want to open carry.
    Exactly. Even if concealed carry was completely decriminalized and unregulated, I would probably still opt to open carry 90%+ of the time.
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    See my posting 6-29-08



    Im here in Fresno too!

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    I want to START oc'ing here in Fresno myself. I want to actually setup something like what they have done in NH with the open carry litter pickup events. I want to locate others who want to open carry (unloaded) to help show those here in the Fresno/Clovis area that it is LEGAL and OK to do.

    Now the thing though is I want to make sure we follow the letter of the law as well as practice "police intervention" and how to properly respond and know your rights to what you MUST tell them and what not to.

    I think it would be best to train those around us that if and when we have to deal with police who might try and look at us as criminals we 100% know the law to the "T".

    Video taped and or audio recorded the entire time. The more we do it I think the safer this city will end up being.

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    CA_Libertarian wrote:
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    i dont want to conceal carry. i want to open carry.
    Exactly.* Even if concealed carry was completely decriminalized and unregulated, I would probably still opt to open carry 90%+ of the time.
    With CC, in addition to requiring you to present your weapon to obtain any deterrent effect, once such deterrence becomes necessary, the weapon must be removed from concealment. CC is clearly a liability.

    Furthermore, OC is more comfortable.

    Why would you ever want to CC? We're not criminals...

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    Agreed, I would rather someone SEE it then assume I don't have one anyways. Its like that ADT sign on your front yard or that blinking car alarm light that deters many. Why hide the warning signs of "I will NOT be a victim".....

    I like the open carry option even if it must be unloaded. I can get clip ready if needed anyways to protect myself and those around me.

    I am thankful I found out about this info.... Now to FULLY understand it and where it will be allowed so I can be 100% inside the law, not trying to be a martyr or anything...

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    Does anyone have the fresno school zones mapped out or "oc carry zones" that allow us to open carry unloaded? Worth asking if there are others here in Fresno currently open carrying and know where they can or can't do it.

    Not trying to toss my own butt in jail do to a simple mistake as incorrect mapping.

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    fresno-opencarry-now wrote:
    Does anyone have the fresno school zones mapped out or "oc carry zones" that allow us to open carry unloaded? Worth asking if there are others here in Fresno currently open carrying and know where they can or can't do it.

    Not trying to toss my own butt in jail do to a simple mistake as incorrect mapping.
    well to start off theres lots of topics here with downloadable pamphlets that scetch out the laws.

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    I made a thread a while back where I brought up the idea of making school maps, but the general consensus seemed to be that it's a bad idea.

    However, it's easy to make your own google maps custom map with nice 1000' circles on every school in your neighborhood, but even this isn't to be trusted unless you are certain as to the extent of the school grounds.

    This thread discusses how to draw a radius in google maps:
    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_to...91&forum_id=12

    Once again though, in my advice your best bet is to stay far away from schools! :shock:

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    thank you for the response and the help with the radius map... Great help indeed.

    marshaul wrote:
    I made a thread a while back where I brought up the idea of making school maps, but the general consensus seemed to be that it's a bad idea.

    However, it's easy to make your own google maps custom map with nice 1000' circles on every school in your neighborhood, but even this isn't to be trusted unless you are certain as to the extent of the school grounds.

    This thread discusses how to draw a radius in google maps:
    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_to...mp;forum_id=12

    Once again though, in my advice your best bet is to stay far away from schools! :shock:

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    marshaul wrote:
    I made a thread a while back where I brought up the idea of making school maps, but the general consensus seemed to be that it's a bad idea.

    However, it's easy to make your own google maps custom map with nice 1000' circles on every school in your neighborhood, but even this isn't to be trusted unless you are certain as to the extent of the school grounds.

    This thread discusses how to draw a radius in google maps:
    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/view_to...mp;forum_id=12

    Once again though, in my advice your best bet is to stay far away from schools! :shock:
    wow thats pretty sweet. thanks for that!

    plus, very good advice. lol.

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    I have a question BUT need to get others thoughts on this. With gas prices I choose to walk to the store for whatever it is I am looking to buy during the day. What are peoples thoughts on me going to the liquor store to get a 12 pack open carrying?

    No drinking BEFORE the walk or during BUT would that be an issue? In my mind I do not see any issue but can see how a guy with a gun + a 12'r being an issue for a cop.

    I know I need to work into this BUT I can't see any issue in my mind since nothing illegal would be going on BUT not sure of the ability to have alcohol WHILE carrying unloaded.

    thoughts or suggestions..,

    I just dont need to use the car for every trip BUT want to be prepared for anything if need be.

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    I don't see any legal or moral issue with drinking while armed, unless you have an alcohol addiction or plan on getting silly drunk.

    I liken it to driving (though driving is far more dangerous than carrying a gun). If you're sober enough to drive then you're certainly sober enough to carry.

    Carrying beer down the sidewalk is legal. As long as you're carrying legally I don't see why you should get any special attention.
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    Just wondering as I heard as far as SOME places not allowing carrying inside a place with alcohol and so on. Just trying to see what any potential issue MIGHT be. Happy to get people USED to it here in fresno clovis BUT making sure things will be fine without me having any issues.

    sounds good ..

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    I don't see any legal or moral issue with drinking while armed, unless you have an alcohol addiction or plan on getting silly drunk.

    I liken it to driving (though driving is far more dangerous than carrying a gun). If you're sober enough to drive then you're certainly sober enough to carry.

    Carrying beer down the sidewalk is legal. As long as you're carrying legally I don't see why you should get any special attention.

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    I think an ordinance like that was passed in SF, but we have state preemption on all gun regulation. The only exception is on city/county property (e.g. fair grounds).
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    no that isnt illegal. you could be buying it for later. but i would keep the booze in a non see through bag; that is a law(a stupid one, like many of them). and a leo will no doubt try to bust you for anything once he finds out he cant nab you for the gun.

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    We will be setting up a open carry litter removal day here in Fresno once I can locate about 10 of us who would be willing to go. I want to contact the local news as well as the local p.d. to SHOWCASE this local effort here in Fresno.

    If there is anyone on here who is willing or wanting to join in a local effort to clean up the streets WHILE bringing up a great RIGHT to the media and public then pm me.

    Here is where I got the idea from

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue7uvsUeQC0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FWXnK5UyRI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2AS7a2Tt0A

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    What I would like to do is setup

    1. open carry litter removal events in fresno
    2. open carry grafitti removal events in fresno
    3. open carry bbq events in fresno

    I want to start small (makes sense indeed) but hope to end up getting more and more people LOCALLY helping with cleanups + gun rights awareness.

    Why have a right if you don't use it? Open Carry for a good cause then....


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    Are you the same poster who posted this on the Ron Paul forums? The words and whatwas said is almost identical?

    A gathering or barbeque sounds great to me !But i do somewhat have a differant opinion? Some of my thoughts are instead of haveing a bunch of groups,Why dont we focus on just 1 that will have a high turnout which will also have the mostOpen Carryers with the most experiance? I know someone else on here wants to do one in Turlock. My reasoning is to not have splintering but a good focused effert? Maybe a combination -its a possability?On the other side-Getting people to commit is easy to say.Anyone can say , yes count me in. I propose that there is some kind of non-refundable donation (For Food,Beverages,Plates, etc,).I have found when people send money ,They most usually go to the event-especially when the money isint misused and the left over money (if Any) is usedfor another event. Its a use it or lose it thing!









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    id love to do your trash pick up or bbq. however id be kinda embarrased since i dont have an OC-able handgun.

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    poothrowingape wrote:
    id love to do your trash pick up or bbq. however id be kinda embarrased since i dont have an OC-able handgun.
    Then OC a long gun!
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    get a bullet button and call it a day

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    true. i have a highly illegal sks(see pic), a mossin Nagant, a browning dear rifle (.223), and a romanian military training rifle (.22).

    any suggestions?

    ....other than leaving the sks at home lol...

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