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    A North Carolina man was falsely arrested in Fairfax recently. Fairfax is a suburb of DC. The cops that were involved were ignorant of our reciprocity agreement with your state.

    Here is the email alert from the Virginia Citizen's Defense League. I am sure we will not letFairfaxwhitewash this incident.

    I am sorry that this happened. I will write to the Fairfax PD on behalf of your citizen once I learn more of the facts.

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    2. Three Fairfax County police officers prove the Keystone Kops are
    alive and well
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    We haven't had any issues with the Fairfax County police in quite a
    while now. I have found them to be one of the best run police
    agencies in Virginia.

    However, three officers tarnished that image last week when they
    unlawfully arrested a North Carolina resident who was legally carrying
    a handgun and had a North Carolina CHP.

    Hold on tight - this is a weird story.

    The gun owner was pulled over for running through a red light, a
    charge which the gun owner disputes.

    The gun owner, believing that he had to disclose he was lawfully armed
    as they do in North Carolina, dutifully told the officer he had a NC
    CHP and was indeed armed.

    The officer seemed to ignore the statement, but very shortly two more
    patrol units pulled up. The next thing the gun owner knew he is in a
    "felony stop" mode. He was asked to walk backwards towards the
    officers, who then disarmed and handcuffed him.

    While trying to unloaded his gun, THEY DROPPED IT ONTO THE ROAD!

    The two officers and a SERGEANT then proceeded to tell him that he was
    under arrested for:

    1. Having hollow point bullets, which they claimed were illegal in
    Virginia (!)
    2. Taking a loaded gun across the state line, which the gun owner
    was told was a FELONY (!)
    3. Having a concealed gun that the police said he couldn't have since
    he was from North Carolina (!!)

    His car and gun were impounded and he was taken off to a magistrate.

    The magistrate looked at the charges and told the police officers that
    they had just made a false arrest.

    The officers pointed out the possession of hollow point bullets. The
    magistrate asked, "are they teflon coated?"

    "No," replied on of the officers.

    "Then they are legal."

    Trying to find something that would stick and justify the false
    arrest, one of the officers said, "We couldn't verify that his North
    Carolina permit is valid."

    The magistrate looked at the permit, noticed the phone number on the
    back where one can call to verify the permit, called the number, and
    within a few minutes found out the permit was indeed valid.

    The gun owner was ordered to be released.

    After being released from custody, the gun owner was given a hard time
    by another officer about getting his gun back, but he did finally get
    it back.

    If all of that isn't bad enough, the arresting officer went ahead and
    gave the gun owner a ticket for the alleged offense of running a red

    In essence, with that brilliant move, the officer was practically
    BEGGING the gun owner to PLEASE sue Fairfax Count for the false arrest!

    I have already talked to my high-level contact with the Fairfax County
    PD about this entire situation and the gun owner has filed a formal

    In the past, Fairfax County PD has been very good when such internal
    investigations are required. Now we will wait and see what happens.

    What is clear is that Fairfax County PD needs to educate its officers

    1. Possession of hollow point bullets
    2. Reciprocity laws
    3. Lawful carriage of firearms across state lines
    4. Safe gun handling (a few years ago unsafe gun handling by an
    officer cause a gun to discharge, killing an unarmed, handcuffed man)

    "These are the shock troops ( of the gun lobby. And, they are not going away."
    Ceasefire NJ Director Brian Miller,, August 20, 2009

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    Thanks for posting that, and don't apologize for someone else's idiocy. Keep us updated.

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    As a North Carolina resident that lived in Fairfax County for over 40 years, I find this hard to believe. Reminds me of the arrests years agoby Fairfax County police for open carry (ie the Starbucks incident). I thought Fairfax County policewas straightened out on all this !

    This crap will continue until the offend party of one of these incidents sues. Filing a complaint is fine , buy really pretty worthless. The chief of police will never even see it. Sue Fairfax County Police and the chief will see it, the entire board of supervisors will see it and it brings policy to the cause. Word gets out and officers stop harassing citizens for lawful carry.

    Our friends in Dickenson, PA have the right idea :A lawsuit in Federal Court can solve many future problems.

    Thanks for posting this amazing story, sorry it happened to the poor guy. I hope he didn't have to pay to get his car back.

    One correction: this is not a weird story, it is a totally Bizarre incident for which there is NO EXCUSE. I hope he beats the ticket, the cop is a fool for writing it.

    The chief of police and internal affairs have their email addresses on the county web site, I wonder how many emails they will get over this?

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    Any news on this?

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